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Post by jjscsix » Sat May 04, 2019 10:47 pm

I’m jealous of you new 2019. I really like the upgrades they made.

Dave, good to hear you are doing more riding.

Can you do the math for me...what is your heat and humidity in terms I can understand? (Yeah, I should not be so lazy and look it up). In Houston our normal temperature for four months is a high temperature of 94F and humidity in the 80% range. We sweat just going out to check the mail. And there is no break from it day or night. It’s normal to be close to 80 degrees when I get up in the morning with 90% humidity. And I get up quite early....even in retirement.
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Re: Well That Was a Surprise...

Post by Rock » Sun May 05, 2019 3:35 pm

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Sat May 04, 2019 10:47 pm
I’m jealous of you new 2019. I really like the upgrades they made.

Dave, good to hear you are doing more riding.

Can you do the math for me...what is your heat and humidity in terms I can understand? (Yeah, I should not be so lazy and look it up). In Houston our normal temperature for four months is a high temperature of 94F and humidity in the 80% range. We sweat just going out to check the mail. And there is no break from it day or night. It’s normal to be close to 80 degrees when I get up in the morning with 90% humidity. And I get up quite early....even in retirement.
JJ our summers are only a little better than that yours lately. 70-75'ish% humidty with upper 80's on many days. It's just too hot to ride with gear on. I rode yesterday in my heavier gear and it pierced 70 and I had to come home and trade the bike in for the convertible becuase I just was not ready for that kind of heat in my heavy gear.

Are you finding it's harder to ride in the heat after your surgery? It seems my tolerance has lessened and I always would sweat very heavily which throws the eletrolyte blalnce off. Just wondering how riding is going to be impacted by all this medioal stuff.

I'll tell you, after walking aournd outside for an hour plus for the past three months I really have gotten to like being outside without a kevlar burka on. I'm craving hiking and kayaking more than riding right now. Of course hiking in the extreme heat is a no no as well, but I don't see myself riding for extendedperiods when it's over 70 degreees. Certainly can't sit in bumpr to bumper rush hour traffic in the summer so those days are over.

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Re: Well That Was a Surprise...

Post by jjscsix » Tue May 07, 2019 1:18 am

Rock wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 3:35 pm
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Sat May 04, 2019 10:47 pm
I’m jealous of you new 2019. I really like the upgrades they made.

Dave, good to hear you are doing more riding.

Can you do the math for me...what is your heat and humidity in terms I can understand? (Yeah, I should not be so lazy and look it up). In Houston our normal temperature for four months is a high temperature of 94F and humidity in the 80% range. We sweat just going out to check the mail. And there is no break from it day or night. It’s normal to be close to 80 degrees when I get up in the morning with 90% humidity. And I get up quite early....even in retirement.
JJ our summers are only a little better than that yours lately. 70-75'ish% humidty with upper 80's on many days. It's just too hot to ride with gear on. I rode yesterday in my heavier gear and it pierced 70 and I had to come home and trade the bike in for the convertible becuase I just was not ready for that kind of heat in my heavy gear.

Are you finding it's harder to ride in the heat after your surgery? It seems my tolerance has lessened and I always would sweat very heavily which throws the eletrolyte blalnce off. Just wondering how riding is going to be impacted by all this medioal stuff.

I'll tell you, after walking aournd outside for an hour plus for the past three months I really have gotten to like being outside without a kevlar burka on. I'm craving hiking and kayaking more than riding right now. Of course hiking in the extreme heat is a no no as well, but I don't see myself riding for extendedperiods when it's over 70 degreees. Certainly can't sit in bumpr to bumper rush hour traffic in the summer so those days are over.
So far I am not seeing any difference in the effects of heat. I've seen very high 80s and as long as I'm moving I'm okay. I wear full gear all the time, all ventilated gear in hot weather.
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Post by Aussie Dave » Thu May 09, 2019 6:11 am

Whooo Hooooo..... 80F = 26.7C........ I'm commin over to stay....... :lol:

Our summer temps were on average 32C (over 86F) and often over 38C (say 100F) and occasionally in the early 40C's (104F).

If the humidity got over 40 or 50% it was just awful and we would sit in front of a fan all day. At 80% it's truly a struggle to do anything as the perspiration just drenches our clothes....... right now, it's very nice..... probably about 13C (50F) at daybreak, rising to maybe 28C in the afternoon (85F) so it's riding weather without snow!

I also feel depleted from my survival, but I need/am trying to get fitter..... my worn hip is painful so it limits the distance I can walk..... though I haven't re-started the home exercise program, which should help build up some stamina.

I can do a big shop for groceries and just drove in to the city center to do some updated will & power of attorney documentation and had no problem dealing with the intense traffic etc..... and last Mondays 150km ride for coffee to the "Outpost Cafe" at our bike friendly tourist town at Canungra was a breeze - but i am not giving it the berries...... just cruising sensibly ;) ...... I think the excitement of full throttle riding is still a little way away for me at the moment.

At least I have reached a stage where I feel I can do almost anything (in reason) without fearing the need to call for medical care...... and that's a huge relief....... SDGT therapy..... :D
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Re: Well That Was a Surprise...

Post by DaveNZ » Thu May 09, 2019 8:54 am

Awesome Dave, just keep on improving mate, walking and gardening duties should be ample for awhile.
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Re: Well That Was a Surprise...

Post by Aussie Dave » Fri May 10, 2019 7:55 am

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Awesome Dave, just keep on improving mate, walking and gardening duties should be ample for awhile.

Hey, you been watching me on google cam eh?....... I just trimmed some trees away from the clothes line :lol:

Some cloudy weather but I'll be riding to Springwood on Saturday for coffee with whats left of my Ducati mates (the master organiser is in Japan/US/Canada this month)....... unless it starts raining :lol:

Just screwed the O2 sensors back in (this time with an extra copper washer) to compare with the last few weeks using fuel dongles. I read somewhere that car mechanics often put some washers under O2 sensors to slightly richen any lean running cars...... no idea how that works, but had a thought bubble and decided to try it and see - I can retest the header temps when I get back to put a figure on that.

I was slightly underwhelmed by the lost fuel economy and the slightly soft throttle (I like it sharp) but I'll do this so I will know which is better for me on this side of the rock ;) .

Started my exercise routine yesterday...... amazing how 15mins of gentle exercise lowers the BP...... it's so tame you'd think it wasn't worth the trouble...... but the effects are amazing :D
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Post by Rock » Sun May 12, 2019 6:32 pm

keep it up Dave. Exercise is essential. Do as much as you can handle.
I started doing a full weight lifting routine, with the exception of bench pressing, ableit with really light weights. I feel somewhat normal again. Alternating hour long walks and 40 minutes of treadmill for cardio. The doc said being in that 135 beats per minute range is okay so I try to stay there for most of the treadmill sessions, and try to hit hills during the walks. This is about all I can handle for now.

Riding still hurts a little when I hot bumps. The Ninja's supesion isn't the best, but it''s not too bad. Definitley enjoying riding again though.

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Re: Well That Was a Surprise...

Post by Aussie Dave » Mon May 13, 2019 7:57 am

G'day Rock,

Glad to hear your also doing well. I've just done a 240km ride - with a bit of vigour - but not too serious as there was a lot of traffic out for our 'Mothers Day' celebrations - Sunday brunches/picnics etc :)

Sure feels great to be back on the bike and feeling confident with my body....... now to build up some stamina and butt endurance ( :lol: had a sore ar.. er, butt after that ride...... gone soft..... i know..... :roll: ).

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Re: Well That Was a Surprise...

Post by jjscsix » Tue May 14, 2019 12:22 am

Good to hear that both of you are doing well.
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Post by Rock » Sat May 18, 2019 1:28 am

Thanks JJ. Now we just have to hope Dave builds up his butt :D

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Re: Well That Was a Surprise...

Post by knackers » Sun May 19, 2019 11:27 am

Bought a new Komine jacket to match the bike.Image


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Re: Well That Was a Surprise...

Post by Aussie Dave » Mon May 20, 2019 5:30 am

Well, I'll just put my new sun glasses on first......... :lol: ........ oh that'll be Knackers riding up the road :lol: .

That sure meets my specs for summer heat reflection! :mrgreen:

Very smart jacket ;)
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Re: Well That Was a Surprise...

Post by Aussie Dave » Mon May 20, 2019 7:53 am

Rock wrote:
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Thanks JJ. Now we just have to hope Dave builds up his butt :D
Hey..... I just read on the other forum, that some euro guys are suspecting they have been updated to the new 19 models suspension software after a service....... and I was thinking my SDGT might have been given the treatment when I was in getting my faulty (and unescessary) charcoal removal dongle errrr, removed :lol: .

I haven't used 'comfort' damping for 18 months but I thought my GT was quite nice while I was luxuriating on soft...... didn't seem to pogo/flap around like I thought it used to, but then I haven't tested it on a longer ride with luggage...... so I'm probably dreaming :lol: .

Didn't get to do any Butt Building on the weekend..... hip was sore from drizzly weather so i softcocked and drove the car everywhere.. :roll: .....

:lol: :lol: ...... I swapped the K&N airfilter out for the oem paper filter, ready to do some fuel testing once I find a servo with some good 95 octane..... also want to run some injector cleaner as the O2 dongles may have carboned the spark plugs with their slightly richer afr...... but...... mr perfect dropped his fuel tank filler cap and broke the red overflow valve at the connector....... :( ....... bloodybuggerdamitall...... however I staged a miracle comeback from the jaws of defeat and reconstructed a connection using a 3mm straight plastic hose connector and some super glue........ all doing well (so far)...... I should say though, DON'T DROP YOUR FILLER CAP - EVER..... as the part is not sold separate and the complete filler cap is $700Aus :twisted: .

Live and learn and always work on a table, not standing over the bike, in a hurry, duhhhh :roll:

Anyway, looking forward to the next ride, fresh fuel, inj cleaner...... then I'll recheck using the 2mm washers under the O2 probes to confirm that they work as well as the dongles...... then back to the K&N which was not 'over oiled' like I imagined.

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Re: Well That Was a Surprise...

Post by mick shere » Tue May 21, 2019 4:48 pm

Dave if the suspension hasn't altered perhaps something else is making the suspension sit lower? :-)

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Post by Aussie Dave » Wed May 22, 2019 8:40 am

Cheers Mick, no issue with the suspension...... ScottyUK (on the KTM forum site) was saying that he thinks his 17GT has been updated for suspension software as he has been using his 'comfort' setting more lately - without any pogo effects...... he is away on a trip so he will advise later..... but I also have been using 'comfort' lately which is odd because I gave up using it a year ago as it was so useless (no rebound damping)..... yet lately it has felt good...... so either I'm imagining things ( :roll: again) or my KTM tech slipped a suspension update into the ecu last month when I was in for the diagnosis on the 'check engine lamp' (which was caused by the purge valve resistor failing in the dongle I bought from a UK supplier).

So I have done a full oem test run (last Tues) and all was good - got 17.5k/ltr on some different fuel. Just installed the Cu washers ready for for stage 2 test on next ride...... to see if I was also imagining smoother throttle response (eg like with the fuel dongles) or not.......

Then I'll drop the K&N filter back in and compare, then I might think about the fuel dongles again...... or not, as my GT (and I) didn't really ever need them...... we get along really well together........ :D Mr & Mrs Orange :lol:

I've done 1300kms in the last month...... only thing stopping me riding is rain or lack of planning.... :lol:
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Re: Well That Was a Surprise...

Post by Aussie Dave » Wed May 22, 2019 8:43 am

mick shere wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 4:48 pm
Dave if the suspension hasn't altered perhaps something else is making the suspension sit lower? :-)
Oh, I get it :oops: ....... after my above ramble, the penny dropped :lol: ...... suspension siting lower......

:lol: :lol: cheers Mick...... your a funny bugger..... :mrgreen:
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Post by pk1 » Fri May 24, 2019 7:36 pm

Dave i found the o2 dingles decreased the mpg and mine is great now with rhe 02 sensors baxk in and rhe booster plug.
I took my son in law out for a spin about 100 miles i had to short shift below 6k revs or the front wheel was going skyward in the 1st 4 gears and could only open it up in 5rh or 6th.
I swear its never been faster since i installed the booster plug and the sprint filter, very spirited ride most of it spent in triple figures😜think i seen 145 at one point and it still returned 38mpg if im taking it easy with the wife im getting 47mpg.
The bike runs so much cooler now with the sas removed and the Rottweiler dongles..
Think im happy with the mods now adding carbon😎

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Post by Winger » Sat May 25, 2019 8:02 am

Just the same as everyone else i’ve Seen plenty posted about the software update but not a serious post about the difference,I come from a world of Ohlins and Wilber so with a change of spring rate preload/compression/rebound you can get what you want in the end.

It’s already been said about the lack of rebound control but frankly I do not believe that it is possible to alter that with software it’s a mechanical revalve job,and I suspect they have altered the front to back biase with less dive on the front forks.

Went into my chosen KTM dealer as opposed to my local!! And they confirm the software is a one way ticket so the jury is still out for me particularly as the majority of the time I ride two up.

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Post by Aussie Dave » Sun May 26, 2019 11:08 pm

Cheers winger, I think I was imagining things again :lol: :roll: .

Yesterdays jaunt up into the hills convinced me that mine is same as ever..... though I've taken to using solo spring setting with comfort damping on our rougher than ever sections of road. I don't think our road makers even know what a good surface looks like - they used to once upon a time, not any longer... :lol: .

My economy has returned though :D :D ..... after a mystery hiatus :lol: ....... I did run a 10Ltr (half tank) dose of injector cleaner, but I think the biggest factor was a tank of nice fresh Caltex 95 octane from a busy and I suspect fastidious fuel outlet at Cannungra...... the GT hit it's usual 20km/ltr readout at 100kph in 5th on the way home, so I'm happy with that.

I still have the paper airfilter in and the Cu washers under the O2 sensors.... I might fit my K&N again when I get to reserve fuel load, but I was never in need of altering the low rpm afr's after fitting the 40t sprocket.

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Pk1... interesting re the booster plug..... did you decat and airfilter your's? Mine is a stocker.

PS I mowed the lawn for the first time since my drama started way back in Feb18... :D ..... felt great to do some real work :D ......
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Re: Well That Was a Surprise...

Post by pk1 » Tue May 28, 2019 4:04 pm

Yes i have a remus link pipe and akropovic end can esa dongle and sas and canister removed with Rottweiler dongles and plates .
Sprint po8 filter and booster plug and its like night and day with the standard set up.
The acceleration is scary fast.
And it runs much cooler witch can only be good for the engine with no adverse effect on mpg.
Ps my grass needd cut if your up for it😭

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