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Hello from California

Post by Rockojo » Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:48 pm

Just wanted to introduce myself. I just got the new Duke Gt and wanted to get on here and do a little research for accessories and maintenance and such. Loving the bike and after coming off a Titan Sidewinder chopper the power and handling are blowing me away .. Feel like Valentino !!! Yea right . Anyways just wanted to come on and intro and chat with you guys and girls ( if there is any ) about the bikes and mods. Thanks

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Re: Hello from California

Post by DaveNZ » Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:23 am

Wellcome aboard the GT forum, and congrats on your GT purchase. Best sports tourer on the marked.
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Re: Hello from California

Post by HAY56 » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:54 pm

Welcome Rockojo!

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Re: Hello from California

Post by Aussie Dave » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:29 am

Welcome Rocko,

What is you're new GT? A 2019 or a 16/17/18 model....... post a pic when able :) .

Only asking because there are some must do things that bring the prev model up to spec with the current 19 model.

Servicing ...... well you can do oil and filter changes easily enough (see owners manual)..... but you are tied to the dealerships KTM system for factory updates and warranty log. If you feel the need to modify anything, do the research first - it's all been done before, so you can read about it and decide from others experience. Another more active forum is the 'KTM forum'..... but it can get very busy.

If you have the latest 19 model then you've got the lot...... latest suspension software, TFT dash, LED headlight, USB socket for phone charging....... but there are plenty of accessories available (both KTM and aftermarket) to fit your bike with top cases/crash bars/rad guards/heated seats/etc etc..... but i don't think the aftermarket screen manufacturers have designed any taller screens for the 19 yet - it is different to the 16-18 model in that area, so you will have to wait for them to catch up.

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Re: Hello from California

Post by jjscsix » Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:42 am

Welcome!

It says in his profile that it's a 2010 ;)
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Re: Hello from California

Post by Aussie Dave » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:59 am

G'day JJ,

:lol: ..... I saw that and figured 'Duke Gt' ..... 2010...... does not compute..... the SDGT only came out in 2016, so I'm guessing it's a typo..... could be a 'new' superceded 16-18 model or the real deal 2019 GT :mrgreen: .

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Re: Hello from California

Post by Rockojo » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:52 pm

Hi , and sorry for slow reply. Just got back from vacation . The bike is a 2019 gt. Just a typo on profile. Thanks for the welcome and notes. Done some research and will handle the service myself. $250 for a service is just a little steep and I can buy parts with money I save. I’m about 40 miles from 1st service at 620 miles and plan on running the semi sun 15w/50 until she is broke in good . Only upgrades I plan to do are the Blaster X integrated taillight and Kazak fender eliminator and the fuel dongles. Just installed the taillight and fender eliminator and it really made her Ass look nice !!!! I’ll install the fuel dongles next. The bike runs a little hot here in the California valley and we have a lot of 100F plus days. Anything that reduces heat is a plus on a motor. Only hiccup I might have is resetting service indicator light which I’ll find out soon enough. Love this bike. I live at the foot of the mountains and 2 1/2 hours from the Pacific Coast highway and I think this is the perfect bike for both. I’ll get some pics posted as soon as I can.

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Re: Hello from California

Post by Rockojo » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:53 pm

Hi , and sorry for slow reply. Just got back from vacation . The bike is a 2019 gt. Just a typo on profile. Thanks for the welcome and notes. Done some research and will handle the service myself. $250 for a service is just a little steep and I can buy parts with money I save. I’m about 40 miles from 1st service at 620 miles and plan on running the semi sun 15w/50 until she is broke in good . Only upgrades I plan to do are the Blaster X integrated taillight and Kazak fender eliminator and the fuel dongles. Just installed the taillight and fender eliminator and it really made her Ass look nice !!!! I’ll install the fuel dongles next. The bike runs a little hot here in the California valley and we have a lot of 100F plus days. Anything that reduces heat is a plus on a motor. Only hiccup I might have is resetting service indicator light which I’ll find out soon enough. Love this bike. I live at the foot of the mountains and 2 1/2 hours from the Pacific Coast highway and I think this is the perfect bike for both. I’ll get some pics posted as soon as I can.

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Re: Hello from California

Post by DaveNZ » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:29 am

^^^ Um i got it the first time :lol:
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Re: Hello from California

Post by Rockojo » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:44 pm

Yea, I tend to repeat myself!!!!

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Re: Hello from California

Post by Aussie Dave » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:55 am

G'day rockojo,

You can run the O2 eliminator dongles to reduce heat - I tested mine and my IR thermo recorded a 30C reduction in front header temp. These resistors make the ECU use the standard ignition map instead of the slightly leaner O2 sensor closed loop Euro5 map for under 5000rpm running.

I am a little uneasy about your not getting the dealer to do the 620ml service - they may have some updates to do or some secret squirrel factory tweaks that aren't "recalls" to slip in...... and you need to protect your warranty, being a new expensive hi tech bike.

I used Motorex semi syn 15w50 from my 620ml (1000kms over here) service (got the dealer mech's approval and had them change the oil & filter & checks etc). I was then free to change my oil & filters every 5,000kms (whats that in miles errrr 3000mls?) but at the first big scheduled dealer service (15,000kms/9000mls) they recommended Motorex Top Speed 15w50 - something about semi syn's possibly causing oil jet blockages if left in an engine for too long..... ). Never go 15,000kms on any oil!

Anyway, I'm very happy with Motorex Top Speed 15w50 - at 19,000kms (? arrr 11k miles?) I have zero oil consumption and I think this grade of Motorex is probably equivalent to Motul 5100 which I have used for decades without any oil consumption issues in new engines from first service..... It's so hard to find out which oil equals one you know works well....... :roll: . Double esther racing oils are no good for long interval road use..... so don't fall for the marketing hype and just use a good road bike oil like Top Speed.

PS Some KTM's have had blockages to the oil jets that spray oil onto the valve finger followers and clutch pack - so that's very important to have checked/ covered by the first service....... you can save some $ by doing your own inbetween services....... don't squib on the first one, in case you have a warranty issue (like the RH switchblock wiring some 19GT's have to have replaced). My local KTM dealer mechanic is a KTM owner and enthusiast..... he only uses Motorex Top Speed 15w50 for our climate even though the KTM book says 10w50....... I have learned to trust him, and my 17SDGT runs perfectly.

PPS Keep in mind not all dongles are necessary..... eg you do not need a dongle to remove the carbon canister...... simply leave the purge valve plugged in (but disconnected from the vacuum hoses to the throttle bodies - which need to be plugged closed). There is a thread on here.....
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Re: Hello from California

Post by Rockojo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:00 pm

Thank You Dave for all the info. Much appreciated. Yea, I was hesitant about skipping the 1st dealer service myself. The dealer Is about 75 miles away and I wanted to run the semi sun 15W/50 in the bike untill it was well broke in. I should have called to see if they would have substituted the semi sun for the full. I figured they wouldn’t. Regarding the fuel dongles , I checked with Rottweiler and another company and they haven’t checked the comparability with the 2019 model yet. So I am waiting on that. On the Purge Valve , is the removal for room only or is their another benefit ? I will call the dealer today and go over my situation with the oil , good advice.

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Re: Hello from California

Post by Aussie Dave » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:28 am

Cheers mate,

I removed my canister for more room under the seat for stuff like this....... errr, actually i've got a lot more stuff crammed in there now...... :lol:
SnapJack SS fits easily into rear tool tray.jpg
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and here's the burnt out dongle that made me realize it was not needed.......so long as the purge valve is left plugged in to the wiring loom, but with plugged vacuum hoses to keep dirty air out of the engine.
That ain't right...... Charcoal removal dongle resistor has fried 6 Apr 019.jpg
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PS If you do remove the canister (it is only there to collect any fuel fumes from the overflow line from the tank filler to the gearlever drain tube - which is capped) and the engine then sucks them back into the inlets to burn them..... I suppose there might be an advantage to plugging the vacuum pulse lines on overall performance, but it would be very small.... i think Rottweiler mention this in a video clip.

Also..... I'm sure the 19Gt is identical to the prev model.... except for the dash/fairing/screen/CC changes (we have upgraded to your 19GT's ECU software so this must be true). But I expect Rottweiler must test to make sure their advice is correct. I'd be 99.9% sure the resistors in the O2 dongles will be the same values for the 19....... however, you can slip a washer/spacer under the O2 sensors on the headers instead of the dongles. I have tried 1.5mm Cu washers that came with my O2 bung plugs, and currently have 2.3mm steel washers in for testing..... (I have removed my dongles)...... these spacers raise the O2 sensor out of the gas flow and work to lower temps, but only by about 10C...... still they are free, and they work, but not as well as the O2 dongles..... your 19 model probably runs a lot smoother than our 16-18's used to before we upgraded to the same ECU software that you have, so maybe be patient and let that new tight motor wear in properly before going crazy with 'mods' that may not be needed.

Lower gearing ratios is a good way to keep the bike in it's happy rev zone (ie over 4500rpms) - easiest and cheapest DIY is to go +2 teeth on the quick change rear sprocket for +250rpms to help with normal traffic riding. 6th gear will still be a big overdrive, but everything else is that bit nicer. The only way to tame that European Beast for commuting in heavier traffic is to go 16/40 as I have done to good effect for my local riding conditions...... you may have lots more 'open' roads and no need to look for easier traffic manners..... see how you go over time...:lol:
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Re: Hello from California

Post by Rockojo » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:40 am

I am thinking pretty much in the same line as you Dave . I called my Ktm dealer today and told him that I already did the service but I wanted to get it a once over and in the system that it came in . He said no problem and they would go through it as well as hook it up to the ktm software on the computer to make sure everything is up to snuff. I’ve had MTC light come on a few times during startup when it dies and restarts itself on cool mornings.I just figured the valve got caught in the wrong position when it dies. Quick off on with the race on switch clears it. I think they really improved the map for the 19 because I really don’t have any issues around town. I don’t lug it but when I am a gear high occasionally and rpm’s get down to about 2500, it still pulls right out of it with hardely a shudder. Only 1st gear take off has a shudder and that’s more me when I baby it. Anyways , I just got the Triox SS the day the other day for chain lubing and flat repair if I ever need it. I think I will remove the canister to store it. Thanks for the info. I looked again today after your comment and saw on ktm twin that the fuel dongles will work with the 2019... funny Rottweiler website doesn’t show it. I would really like to install them just for the lower heat buildup. Thanks for everything brother.

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