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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by DaveNZ » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:57 am

Himmm, im not a fan of those white side pannels and their shape, i also don't like the new headlight design, but id like the updated ecu information for the suspension.
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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by mick shere » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:23 am

It looks interesting, wonder if the panniers locking system has been improved?

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Post by Aussie Dave » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:13 pm

G'day Mick...... i believe there is no change to the pannier system as the comment in the review I have just says that they are the only system that needs the key....... no mention of any redesign to the locking arm.

The panniers are made by 'Shad' for the GT so it would be a big deal to redesign them - I have fitted the SW Motech quick change rack to my rear end ( :lol: ) so I can easily swap between 30L oem bags or my old Givi 40Ltr Mc Wopper's...... so there is an option if the little panniers are not big enough or easy enough to pack full of stuff for two ;) with just a small increase to overall width & weight for a huge increase in capacity/robustness and the bonus of a quick access hatch. The downside is the cost of 2 new Givi's and the rack vs the lightweight oem cases......

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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by RDKLL » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:05 am

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I have both a SD GT and a 1600GT, my second 1600. Also, the guy I ride with every weekend has a H2 SX (along with a SD-R and FJR). So I have riden all three of your choices. BTW, you should know that Kawasaki dealers are allowed to put an H2 SX in demo service. If you want to travel to Houston I can hook you up with a dealer who has a demo. He is also the KTM dealer I bought my SD from.

If you have any questions about the bikes I let me know. Right now my time on the H2 is limited, but in the next few weeks I'll be putting 100 miles on my friends bike. But I can tell you what he thinks of it. Short answer is that he has bonded with it. BTW, I'm about to turn 66 and he is 69. We've both been riding a long time!
Thank you for that info. I am 56 and my wife is 37 and when we got the SDGT it was for 2 up twisties in the Mesa AZ area. I have been riding along time but on basically one type of bike. I rode a 1976 Goldwing for years and then for the last 20 I had a Honda Valkyrie so this was a HUGE difference. For us, the smoothness, which I enjoyed on the Honda, is just not getting it done after the torque of the Super Duke and I think it would be the issue with the H2SX. If I find myself in Houston I will give you a call. Is your KTM dealer a volume guy that makes deals for fly-in ride out customers? :)

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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by jjscsix » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:04 am

RDKLL wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:05 am
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Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:46 pm
I have both a SD GT and a 1600GT, my second 1600. Also, the guy I ride with every weekend has a H2 SX (along with a SD-R and FJR). So I have riden all three of your choices. BTW, you should know that Kawasaki dealers are allowed to put an H2 SX in demo service. If you want to travel to Houston I can hook you up with a dealer who has a demo. He is also the KTM dealer I bought my SD from.

If you have any questions about the bikes I let me know. Right now my time on the H2 is limited, but in the next few weeks I'll be putting 100 miles on my friends bike. But I can tell you what he thinks of it. Short answer is that he has bonded with it. BTW, I'm about to turn 66 and he is 69. We've both been riding a long time!
Thank you for that info. I am 56 and my wife is 37 and when we got the SDGT it was for 2 up twisties in the Mesa AZ area. I have been riding along time but on basically one type of bike. I rode a 1976 Goldwing for years and then for the last 20 I had a Honda Valkyrie so this was a HUGE difference. For us, the smoothness, which I enjoyed on the Honda, is just not getting it done after the torque of the Super Duke and I think it would be the issue with the H2SX. If I find myself in Houston I will give you a call. Is your KTM dealer a volume guy that makes deals for fly-in ride out customers? :)
Yes, my dealer is a volume dealer. The dealer is Mainland Cycle in Lamarque TX and Albert is THE guy to talk to.

I rode my friends SX about 30 miles today on some country roads. The bike is smooth as silk and fast as hell. Is so smooth that the speed is deceptive. I had it way over 100 a few times.

BTW, you have me beat. My wife is 13 years younger than me. And I'm 66 years old and will be retired two weeks from now!
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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by Aussie Dave » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:09 am

Just read a post on the 'KTM forum' and the 2019 SDGT is on dealership floors in the UK now..... so they have stock but can't ride until spring, and we have sunshine here in Aus, but must wait until March for our first look :roll: .

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Post by mrslackloin » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:43 pm

On the floor at Springwood Suzuki (Dave's and my local):

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Could be my imagination but it seems physically smaller than my model.

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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by Aussie Dave » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:26 pm

G'day Mark,

Looks are deceiving ...... it's the black on black making it appear smaller than our 17 paint schemes ;) .

Nice pics BTW...... funny how the pro photographer's can't take a nice angle..... or set the bike up for a good looking pose...... I've seen photo's with the screen raised to max which makes the GT look, errr, awkward, when it's not.

Good one mate...... I knew I should have driven to Springwood yesterday...... been cruising past every Saturday looking for an early arrival.... and they turn up when my coffee mates are away on a boat cruise and I stay home and fix stuff around the house....... :roll:

Ok, so I have an excuse to visit during the week...... you know, just for fun...... not to buy..... just looking.. :lol:
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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by mrslackloin » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:37 am

DaveAu;945298 wrote:...hmmmmm, might suit up and take a waterfront cruise..... :grin2:
I'm gonna head down to the Wynnum Esplanade for some fish'n'chips and a short shakedown run of the new tailtidy in about an hour, Dave. Will keep an eye out for you ;)

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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by mick shere » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:07 pm

I had a sit on one the other day and asked about the sat nav mount from my 17 being put on the new one (having just spent £500 on a new Garmin 595) only to be told ktm don't fit them. Had conversations with 2 shops about possible px one wanted my bike and 7k the other 9k (that's UK pounds) sounds like what we suspected would happen has, when the GT prices were chopped last year because of overstocking so were the value of ours

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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by Aussie Dave » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:36 pm

Cheers Mick,

I recently changed my insurer's as the original mob were overpriced ripoff merchants (they wanted $740pa)..... the new mob (went with Swann Ins) were very accommodating..... they allowed me to double my excess to lower the premium and they also confirmed that I could have 'agreed' or 'market' value - both were for $22k Aus (I went market as it was the lowest premium at $540pa)........ most insurers are coy about telling the customer what they value the bike at and a growing trend is to not allow increasing the excess to reduce premiums.......

So, my 17 is about where I expected it to be...... bikes seem to lose about 3-4k a year by depreciation - maybe mine was valued higher due to my enforced lower kms (11,300)....... of course a dealer trade in has to allow for some profit on re-sale and some wiggle room for a tight-arsed haggler....... hell, $22k for something like mine vs $30kAus for a new model...... but people want a super bargain (and they don't know how the used bike was ridden or if it has been tampered with or repaired etc etc......).

I guess I'll just have to be strong in my mind when I go in for a casual look...... It'll take a lot of effort to remove some of the accessories which I would want to keep & put on the new model....... :lol:

I keep telling myself I'm not allowed to go and look unless I can ride the Gt there and back....... :lol:
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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by Aussie Dave » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:46 am

Knackers in Melbourne has jumped on one...... see his smiling face up in the 'Anybody still riding' thread in the general board index.

I'm hugely envious...... but good on ya Knackers....... the bike makes you look great mate 8-) :lol: ;)
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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by Aussie Dave » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:36 am

Cheers all,

Just stopped by at my local KTM shop or a look at the 2019GT.... :)

Bloody nice...... it was parked next to the 2018 black GT and I didn't spot it at first..... thinking they must have sold it, or it was out on a test ride..... :( ....... then I saw the new shape LED headlight and screen top.

I like it, and as mrslackloin says... it really does 'look' slimmer than the 018..... but I think that's an optical delusion... :lol: .....

The little pockets are neat (they fold out to open) and I thought the radiator could be slightly bigger but didn't get a chance to look properly (that hasn't been reported so I'd say I was mistaken ;) ).

The sales guys were busy on phones so I didn't get a look at the new TFT dash .. :(

The new screen is strong..... heaps more stable than the outgoing models...... it really feels good and would hold a big heavy screen in place securely at any speed.

Everything else looks very SDGT...... the handguards are welcome and not too big, but the mirrors are the same as prev models.

So, as read in reviews, it is a mid life (?) makeover with a few changes that just make it better, without making the 16-18 model obsolete.

Oh, nearly forgot, the cruise is fully on the left.... it is a small lever switch where the hazard light button was on our models..... it looks and feels flimsy though..... but it activates, and, sets and adjusts cruise speed. The hazard light button has moved to the right switchblock ;)

Ps I said g'day to the service workshop guys on the way out, and they winked at me and asked 'when you gonna buy one?'....... surprisingly ( :lol: ) i answered instantly, 'I'd have to trade both my bikes in'........

Am I in trouble?...... :roll:
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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by knackers » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:33 am

Still smiling Davo, love this pisser of a bike mate ImageImageImageImage


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Post by Steve-Gnome » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:12 am

Got mine about 2 weeks ago - goes back tomorrow for its 1k service. As a former BMW S1000XR rider (had two of them) this is my first big twin and KTM. Loving it so far. Its weapon grade!
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Post by knackers » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:52 am

Steve-Gnome wrote:Got mine about 2 weeks ago - goes back tomorrow for its 1k service. As a former BMW S1000XR rider (had two of them) this is my first big twin and KTM. Loving it so far. Its weapon grade!
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Post by Steve-Gnome » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:27 am

It came with the guards, but was missing some part of the mounting hardware. My dealer here gave me some nice machined KTM orange bar ends (to keep) while we wait for the missing parts...

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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by Aussie Dave » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:12 pm

knackers wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:52 am
Steve-Gnome wrote:Got mine about 2 weeks ago - goes back tomorrow for its 1k service. As a former BMW S1000XR rider (had two of them) this is my first big twin and KTM. Loving it so far. Its weapon grade!

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Did yours come with the handguards as mine didn’t and I am awaiting them to arrive separately ImageImage
G'day steve & knackers,

They are supposed to have the aero-black guards standard..... the demo at Springwood has them. Also, hot grips are standard (my 17 has them), and are supposed to be installed so that the cabling is less visible.

Welcome to the KTM clan Steve (knackers is an old hand as he had an SDR b4 his SDGT ;) )......

Maybe knackers can confirm, but I suspect you will want to put a +2 tooth rear sprocket on the 19GT (my 17 needed it) as the gearing will be slightly too european and will make the motor chug at 60kph in 3rd gear in traffic etc..... also 6th will be unusable under 130kph.......

The advantage is the 'quick change' rear system..... 15-20mins and the new sprocket is on :D ...... I didn't test the 16t front as I thought the gearing was close to ok (but just a bit tall), and I suspect the -1 front would be about 3.5 rear teeth which might be too low - though you could try it and advise 8-)

With the 40t rear the motor is smooth and happy in traffic (3rd/60kph, 4th/70-80kph, 5th/90-110kph and 6th is ok from 110kph +no need to alter chain length!)....... maybe 6th might be better if a 16t front was used... but the 1st-4th gearing might be too short?. KTM might have changed the internal ratio's too...... I don't know.... I only know the 16-18 model needed shorter final gearing ;) . (40t increases rpm at 100kph in 5th by 250 = in the sweet zone). From memory, mine does 4250rpm in 5th at 100kph vs 4000 with the 38t so no big penalty for much smoother day to day riding in traffic.

Anyway, keep it up in the revs like your S1000XR's and be prepared for 5000-8000km run-in period before it gives it's best........ I stayed with semi synthetic Motorex 15w50 oil and did 5000km oil changes and I have zero oil consumption. I'm very wary of going full syn at 1000kms as the motor & suspension are not worn in no matter what sales guys say..... ;) ..... and you'd be nuts to follow the 15k km oil intervals.... :roll:

If you decide to do the sprocket..... here's a clue...... rear goes on one way = pretty side in....
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PS........ You'll be needing some stands as the GT cannot be fitted with a centre stand like the S1000XR.

The guys seem to like the ABBA centre (workshop) stand as it can be fitted with a front wheel lift, otherwise there are the KTM/La Corsa paddock style stands and some expensive 'lifting' roller type stands...... but ...
have a look at this side prop stand for chain maintenance/puncture work on trips......
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It will fit into the rear seat compartment once you remove the charcoal canister and fit the error code eliminator dongle (or loop and retain the purge valve.... )......
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Ahhh..... that's way too much for an intro to the SDGT...... have fun with the latest version..... it has some very nice upgrades over my magic 17 GT :mrgreen:

PPS....sorry, I lied...... get the guys to reset the trigger pressures in the TPMS (or kill the warnings but keep the TPMS active) so you can run 34psiF & 36psiR like I have done from new...... 36 & 40psi for a light bike solo & unloaded is nuts..... others have crashed their GT's from loss of grip (Angel GT's are ok but not great in the wet).... I haven't :lol: ...... touch wood...... ;)
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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by knackers » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:27 pm

Thanks for the info Davo.
I run a 16T front sprocket on the R and it is perfect for what I am after. I can sit on 105-110 kph without any labouring lug going on and the power is just off so it makes cruising way better, I didn’t really notice the change in the lower gears and have already bought a 16T for the GT, no changing the length of the chain either. My fuel consumption on the R is amazing still as when my wife and I stop for fuel (she is on an MT09 & now has an MT09 Tracer GT) the difference is only around a litre which is nuts. Riding the new GT tells me that the ratios seem the same as to change into 6th I have to be doing around 115 kph for it to cruise properly.

I have just removed the front exhaust 1 into 2 pipe to give it a high polish which not only looks good but makes it easier to remove any gunk. I will also be fitting the Attack rear sets that I customised on the R as I am so used to using them that the standard units are bulky and not as slick.

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Re: 2019 KTM SDGT Photo's are Out

Post by Steve-Gnome » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:34 am

Wow, thanks for the treasure trove of info on the welcome. I’ve already ordered the 40t rear after reading before I got it but waiting for 1k service to fit.

Love the rear sets and polished pipes. I can see me spending more here!!

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