Exhaust valve dongle

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Re: Exhaust valve dongle

Post by DaveNZ » Wed May 09, 2018 1:53 am

The replacement ESE has arrived and been fitted, 150K test ride and all works perfectly. It also came with 2 O2 sensor removal plugs, but I had already fitted these, Rottweiler supplied these as they help compensate for the low down leanness. YAY.
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Re: Exhaust valve dongle

Post by KiwiDes » Wed May 09, 2018 8:50 am

My new ESE & link pipe arrived a few days ago but haven't put them on yet. Good to hear it's working properly

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Re: Exhaust valve dongle

Post by DaveNZ » Thu May 10, 2018 1:33 am

KiwiDes wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 8:50 am
My new ESE & link pipe arrived a few days ago but haven't put them on yet. Good to hear it's working properly

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You will need the SAS removal kit Des.
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Re: Exhaust valve dongle

Post by KiwiDes » Thu May 10, 2018 2:25 am

Ok thanks

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Re: Exhaust valve dongle

Post by AndyW » Thu May 10, 2018 11:09 am

Healtech wrote:We are pleased to announce another Exhaust Servo Eliminator module, this time for the KTM 1290 Super Duke / GT.
It's exclusive to HealTech, no one else makes it :)
The ESE-KT1 is available for order now from our distributors.

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Re: Exhaust valve dongle

Post by SuperDukeGT » Tue May 15, 2018 12:50 pm

I ordered an exhaust servo eliminator from Healtech through my local retailer (Bayside Performance), installed it and it also threw fault codes; MTC, TC, Engine light and limited my rpm to 6000. My bike also 'died' a few times on a 107 km ride and then sprung back to life before leaving me stranded but still in limp mode. I contacted Healtech directly and they responded saying that their dongles needed a firmware update. Hmm. Not impressed and when I receive a replacement, I intend to leave the exhaust valve servo motor on the bike and try the new dongle. I am not confident of their part at this point in time.

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Re: Exhaust valve dongle

Post by AndyW » Tue May 15, 2018 2:09 pm

Understand your frustration - Healtech have gotten this sorted and are in the process of replacing all the 'MK1' versions of the dongle. Apparently the GT electronics/diagnostics system is the most complex (you could maybe say OTT in some respects) that Healtech have worked on to date (bare in mind the huge range of bikes they have been producing electronic gizmos for for years).
This has been an unfortunate incident for some early adopters of the ESE (apparently bikes with the O2 sensors removed had no issues) both for customers and Healtech....they do otherwise have a longstanding excellent reputation ;-)

I did as you mentioned, test rides with the ESE fitted but without removing the servo motor unit....but my exhaust servo motor now resides in a box on a shelf in my garage :D

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Re: Exhaust valve dongle

Post by Newbusa » Tue May 15, 2018 4:15 pm

I just purchased the little cam provided by Rottweiler , works great in fooling the Ecu ,no error codes.

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Re: Exhaust valve dongle

Post by DaveNZ » Wed May 16, 2018 3:25 am

Newbusa wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 4:15 pm
I just purchased the little cam provided by Rottweiler , works great in fooling the Ecu ,no error codes.
Yes i used one (cam) on mine for 22,000Kms with no problem. And Andy i had my O2 sensors removed, and the first batch of ESE failed on my bike causing multiple faults, MK 2 ESE works perfectly.
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Re: Exhaust valve dongle

Post by GaryCulb » Wed May 16, 2018 12:56 pm

OK, fallow me here. Considering removing the catalytic converter and replacing with the Bodis Pipe ( http://www.bodis-exhaust.com/details.ph ... 76&lang=en). Done the PowerCell performance SAS removal (https://www.powercellperformance.com/sh ... ture-1190/ ) but, still use the oxygen sensors. Would also like to get rid of the exhaust servo by adding the HealTech ES eliminator (https://www.healtech-electronics.com/products/ese/). Have questions:

- Will I get error codes & bike go lump?
- Will I need to re-map the ECU?? If so where do I get the new ECU map???
- Does the KTM SD GT become allot louder????
- Does the bike loose power by making this conversion?????

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Re: Exhaust valve dongle

Post by AndyW » Wed May 16, 2018 2:57 pm

There's guys round these parts that will be able to give better / more knowledgeable answers than me.
First tip.....spend some time searching the forum, pretty much everything you ask has been covered one way or another ;-)

ESE will prevent errors relating to the exhaust valve not working / not being present (just to be safe, before removing anything, just connect the ESE and do a few miles - the bike may not run too well with the exhaust valve in place but not operational ;-))

Your SAS removal kit should have included a 'dongle' to connect to the SAS pump or valve or whatever it is, wiring connector on the bike....so should be no errors there

Remap fuelling....highly advisable. Rottweiler (other brands are available lol) do 'fuelling' dongles that simply richen the fuel mixture across the board. How good these are I have no idea but I do know that they are a poor substitute for and will not be anywhere near as good as an actual remap. There's all sorts of 'piggy back' devices like Power Commander but depending on your needs, what you want from the bike, can't beat a visit to a tuning specialist.
Fuelling dongles will suffice maybe as a temp measure anyway?

Loss of power....seen talk of loosing some low/mid-range grunt with some decats. From what I've read the Bodis is one of the better decat. Simple logic is that making a fairly major hardware change such as a decat will require software changes as per previous para.

DaveNZ.....glad to hear Healtech got you sorted.
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