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Post by sweald54 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:22 pm

I am looking to purchase a bike sat nav system and am considering the new tom tom rider 5 (just out). Does anyone have a view about tom tom verses garmin as I cant see much difference in spec
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Re: Sat nav systems

Post by Kafn8td » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:12 pm

The only real difference that I find between the two is the interface. I think the Garmin is more user friendly.
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Re: Sat nav systems

Post by JJay51 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:42 pm

Do a Google search fir peaklife motorcycle GPS :mrgreen:
I got one and upgraded the software with the latest Europe maps all for 105 quid!

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Re: Sat nav systems

Post by ogden » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:40 pm

I've had both a Tomtom Rider v2 and a Garmin Zumo 220, and they're bother deeply, deeply awful in their own ways.

Ultimately, which is better for you depends what you want to do.

Tomtom:
+ Amazing and reliable POI database for finding places to sleep, eat or refuel in a hurry
+ Great at finding the quickest route from A to B
- Ropey build quality, will fall apart over time
- Obsessed with main roads, be prepared for lots of "turn around when possible" when taking a scenic route
- Pre-planned routes may not entirely match the route the satnav decides to take once moving
- May not be able to hold a map covering your entire journey (unless the v5 has waaaay more storage than the old version)

Garmin
+ Brilliant for following a pre-planned route from A to B via C, D, E, F and everything to Z, to the tiniest detail
+ Much better build quality, will last for years
+ Will hold a map covering every road between London and Bucharest, with main roads well into another continent
- Awful POI database, if you need fuel in a hurry expect it to take you to a garage that's closed, derelict or never was

My Zumo 220 still works, but I've just ordered a Zumo 350LM to replace it. The shit POI DB on the Garmin drives me nuts, but the ability to follow a scenic route and hold a full map of Europe (and beyond) makes it invaluable.
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Post by Scutty » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:15 pm

Co-Pilot Live on my Android - brilliant
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Post by Rangoonruns » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:29 pm

I have a Zumo 660
Well overpriced would not buy another
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Post by b3nny » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:37 pm

When I was in Ireland last year for the NW200 my friend used the TomTom app on his iPhone was brilliant cant really remember exactly but it had an option for sort of country roads / twistys had a brilliant day out down in Southern Ireland using it

But iv seen some good feedback on the Peaklife as mentioned above and I really fancy one

Does any one know if it has the same sort of option I mentioned above?

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Re: Sat nav systems

Post by JJay51 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:55 pm

Its capable of taking custom routes from google maps that you make and using them :)
Ive got my Euro trip mapped out ready in google and have put a couple of days of routing to try it and it works excellently.
The upgraded software has a lot more options too including off road routing etc.

There are options for avoiding highways etc. also shortest route or fastest route.
The unit can also bluetooth instructions and music through to compatible earpieces.

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Re: Sat nav systems

Post by Mikeylikesit » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:30 pm

JJay51 wrote:Do a Google search fir peaklife motorcycle GPS :mrgreen:
I got one and upgraded the software with the latest Europe maps all for 105 quid!
I gotta stop reading......I just ordered a peaklife! lol

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Re: Sat nav systems

Post by JJay51 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:19 am

Mikeylikesit wrote:
JJay51 wrote:Do a Google search fir peaklife motorcycle GPS :mrgreen:
I got one and upgraded the software with the latest Europe maps all for 105 quid!
I gotta stop reading......I just ordered a peaklife! lol
Well done :mrgreen:

For mounting options might i suggest either the handlebar mount ram ball bolt replacement or the diamond base ram mount screwed to the top of the clocks housing under the screen with a short ram extension to the sat nav bracket, ive ordered the bits and will put a pic up when ive mounted it, still to decide where to hard wire it to the Acc 1 or put a cig socket plug on the end instead and use the standard socket on the yokes :D

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Re: Sat nav systems

Post by sweald54 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:23 pm

Thanks folks I have ordered the tom tom rider 5 due to good feedback and £349 price via bikehps (very helpful company). So its winding roads next week all the way to the nurburgring !!

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Re: Sat nav systems

Post by ogden » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:14 pm

My Zumo 350LM's just arrived, and first impressions are the flaws of the Zumo 220 are pretty much sorted. Lightning fast, actually knows the difference between a convenience store and a petrol station, and has a proper power connector that doesn't look like it'll corrode in seconds.

Also £350. Well, £328.67 delivered, with lifetime map updates, which leaves some spare cash to spend on gin.

Did that screen arrive OK?
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Re: Sat nav systems

Post by Mikeylikesit » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:34 pm

JJay51 wrote:
Mikeylikesit wrote:
JJay51 wrote:Do a Google search fir peaklife motorcycle GPS :mrgreen:
I got one and upgraded the software with the latest Europe maps all for 105 quid!
I gotta stop reading......I just ordered a peaklife! lol
Well done :mrgreen:

For mounting options might i suggest either the handlebar mount ram ball bolt replacement or the diamond base ram mount screwed to the top of the clocks housing under the screen with a short ram extension to the sat nav bracket, ive ordered the bits and will put a pic up when ive mounted it, still to decide where to hard wire it to the Acc 1 or put a cig socket plug on the end instead and use the standard socket on the yokes :D
cool I already have a ram ball bolt replacement from my current S3 setup! and I look forward to your picture of a different mount. I will consider changing the power plug to usb cuz I have a 2amp/ 2 port usb cig adapter plugged in now. that way I can power my phone and the gps! good find for us who like a deal. I know there will be the "you get what you pay for" factor, but if I am pleasantly surprised then all good. perhaps my next gps will be the new garmin or tomtom.......

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Post by JJay51 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:31 pm

Mikeylikesit wrote: cool I already have a ram ball bolt replacement from my current S3 setup! and I look forward to your picture of a different mount. I will consider changing the power plug to usb cuz I have a 2amp/ 2 port usb cig adapter plugged in now. that way I can power my phone and the gps! good find for us who like a deal. I know there will be the "you get what you pay for" factor, but if I am pleasantly surprised then all good. perhaps my next gps will be the new garmin or tomtom.......
I think youll be pleasantly surprised :mrgreen:

I've replaced the bundled Igo8 nav software for Igo Primo top of the range Igo software with the latest 2013 maps and poi's loaded in that i need for the countries ill ride in :)

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Re: Sat nav systems

Post by sweald54 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:22 am

I thought it came with wiring direct to battery ??

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Re: Sat nav systems

Post by JJay51 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:14 pm

sweald54 wrote:I thought it came with wiring direct to battery ??
You can wire it to the acc 1 or 2 plugs behind the headlight or you could use the power socket on the clamps but obviously that wouldnt be water proof.

Anyhow, received my ram fittings today, diamond base and medium arm.

http://www.ram-mount.co.uk/diamond-base ... 8_286.html

http://www.ram-mount.co.uk/double-socke ... 8_286.html

Found that the supplied satnav plate with ball has a smaller ball on it than the ram fittings, off to the local shop and picked up a plate with ram b size ball which is this part :

http://www.ram-mount.co.uk/2-x-17-adapt ... 8_286.html

Fitted tonight apart from actually wiring it in.
Ill be putting the wiring inside the little hatch behind the light and temporarily fitting a 12v cig plug to use this weekend :mrgreen:

If you want to mount the unit and supplied bracket to the mirror stem base then no ram fittings are required.

So i screwed the diamond base to the headlight surround under the screen -

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Refitted screen and fitted the medium ram arm to the satnav bracket with new connector plate and onto the diamond base ball.

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Post by Dunk » Sun May 19, 2013 11:11 am

I'm using my iPhone 4S running Copilot. I can plot routes on my PC using various bits of freeware and then upload to the iPhone also using freeware and then ride. I'm really happy with the results as I've been looking for a replacement for my old Quest for many years.

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Post by AHA » Tue May 21, 2013 1:49 pm

Dunk wrote:I'm using my iPhone 4S running Copilot. I can plot routes on my PC using various bits of freeware and then upload to the iPhone also using freeware and then ride. I'm really happy with the results as I've been looking for a replacement for my old Quest for many years.

I'm running Navigon (by Garmin) on my iPhone 4 and it's pretty good - way better than the Zumo I had (which was truly awful) and at least as good as an average car system. However here doesn't seem to be any way I can create a point to point route and upload that to the device. What freeware or paid apps are you using to do this?

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Post by LenFerguson » Wed May 22, 2013 10:23 am

Hey when it comes to using phones they only work when the phone has reception, it this right?
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Post by Scutty » Wed May 22, 2013 1:36 pm

Co_pilot has maps on-board so doesn't require signal (other than GPS obviously) to run.
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