JC @£440 or Wings @ £560

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JC @£440 or Wings @ £560

Post by ScoobyZ » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:43 am

HI have picked up my new SMT and am going to change the exhaust.

I've narrowed it down to two. JC Tri Oval at £440 (or maybe JC Oval @ £380) delivered to UK or Wing NOS at £560.

I've read a lot about both, but has anyone had or seen / heard both? If so are the Wings worth the extra £120 ?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: JC @£440 or Wings @ £560

Post by lcjohnny » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:37 pm

The JC is such a good price!!
the sound seems goodhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 4lQV3IuvvA
Any idea what the quality is like?

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Post by Rangoonruns » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:43 pm

I have jc ovals would love the tri's

real good quality not akra's but real good :D
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Post by lcjohnny » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:57 pm

Thanks Rangoonruns.
Sounds like I might get a pair of JC - Is there a power benefit from the tri-ovals?

I just need so sell the Akras off my old Superduuke to get the dosh :)

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Post by SFC1000 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:49 am

Have you considered Leo Vince cans (8414 INOX).
Same price as the JC ovals and includes delivery.
Send and email to here if interested, lennox.vip@hotmail.com,
I bought a pair just before Christmas, good cans.

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Post by SFC1000 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:40 pm

Here is another link to Leo Vince 8414 INOX and these are Euro 399 (£343 at the present exchange rate) I am presuming you have got to add postage but still a good price.

http://www.accessoripista.com/dettagli.asp?codice=8414

As an option they also do carbon ones:-

http://www.accessoripista.com/dettagli. ... ce=%208585

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Post by ScoobyZ » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:02 pm

Cheer 508 euros with shipping and tax
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Post by ScoobyZ » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:24 pm

SFC1000 wrote:Here is another link to Leo Vince 8414 INOX and these are Euro 399 (£343 at the present exchange rate) I am presuming you have got to add postage but still a good price.

http://www.accessoripista.com/dettagli.asp?codice=8414

As an option they also do carbon ones:-

http://www.accessoripista.com/dettagli. ... ce=%208585

Are these the ones? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXHAUST-SILEN ... 2a2a01211e

Will they fit with heat shields and carriers? I have read they will be a bit out of angle.
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Post by SFC1000 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:38 am

They fit fine with the heat shields and carriers, no angle problems.

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Post by ScoobyZ » Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:48 pm

Cheers for the advice.

I decided on some Road Legal Fuel Exhaust at £299 delivered. These are stamped and I ordered with the new folded end (rather than rolled) and no badges for that OEM look.

They do brushed but I like things all the same colour so went with polished. (The brushed comes with polished ends / clamps)

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Just need to run bike in and fit them. I will stick a pic up once fitted.
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Post by lcjohnny » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:16 pm

I'd love to hear them.

I want gruff but not too loud (as I get on with the neighbours)
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Post by ScoobyZ » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:40 pm

Once they are on I will see if I can get a video uploaded.
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Post by lcjohnny » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:12 am

ScoobyZ
how is it with the fuel exhaust? :?: :?:
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Post by ScoobyZ » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:36 am

Haven't got them on yet, still running bike in :/
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Fitting Tri-Oval JC @£440

Post by lcjohnny » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:24 pm

ScoobyZ have you fitted yours yet?

Mine arrived - they look good and were well packed

I had a first attempt at fitting them today.

However I wanted to hang them straight off the frame without brackets and heat shields and it seems that will require some bracketry as the SMT exhausts hang of the luggage brackets :(

As far as I can see I cannot use a bolt and nut with the JCE hanger because I cannot get behind tighten it up. So I was thinking of reshaping the KTM exhaust hanger to a tri-oval profile but they are 33mm longer so won't grip the silencers.

Has anyone fitted these and what is the best way.

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Re: Fitting Tri-Oval JC @£440

Post by lcjohnny » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:47 pm

lcjohnny wrote:
Has anyone fitted these and what is the best way.

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Okay I got it !!

1) Use the JCE hangars,
2) bend them so the mounting tabs are about 15mm inboard of the top-centre line
3) then bend them to fit the trioval shape
4) have a cup of coffee and wish you had bought oval (or round) cans!
6) fit the pipes
7) try to get a nut and washer on the back of an 8mm allen screw going through the mounting tabs and the black bracket that holds the heatshields
8) drop the nut, then the washer, swear
9) repeat lines 7 & 8 until you lose the will to live
10) find that you have accidentally got the washer and nut in place then
11) start on the 2nd silencer :x :twisted:
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Re: Fitting Tri-Oval JC @£440

Post by kaivalagi » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:16 pm

lcjohnny wrote:
lcjohnny wrote:
Has anyone fitted these and what is the best way.

Jon
Okay I got it !!

1) Use the JCE hangars,
2) bend them so the mounting tabs are about 15mm inboard of the top-centre line
3) then bend them to fit the trioval shape
4) have a cup of coffee and wish you had bought oval (or round) cans!
6) fit the pipes
7) try to get a nut and washer on the back of an 8mm allen screw going through the mounting tabs and the black bracket that holds the heatshields
8) drop the nut, then the washer, swear
9) repeat lines 7 & 8 until you lose the will to live
10) find that you have accidentally got the washer and nut in place then
11) start on the 2nd silencer :x :twisted:
Had an equally troubled time fitting my tri ovals :?

The biggest issue I had was getting the old bolts out of the stock cans, the crap stock ones need replacing on a new bike IMHO, along with all other bolts being removed, copper greased and inserted again. I managed to get one out okay, another sheered and the rest required a hack saw / dremel grinder combination leaving the stock cans unusable right now.

I took the "tacked on" threaded flanges off the original straps and used them with the original bolts and rubber gromit thingy rather than using a replacement long bolt/nut/washer.

I also found that the cans needed tilting so the inside flat edge was parallel with the body work, if not they wont clear the indicators using the straps that came with them...looks good this way anyway I think.

They look good and sound even better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m-d86WOp1s

I've left the baffles in as the sound is what I want and not the volume "so much"....we'll see how long I can keep those baffles in!

Jon, What can I expect at UK MOT stage with these JC exhausts, they have no markings at all...? I wont be getting the stock ones back on again...not without some serious help to remove the rusted in bolts
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Re: JC @£440 or Wings @ £560

Post by Muppet » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:19 pm

Kai, I hate to say this, but that left 'zorst is twisted off vertical more than the right one. Other than that, they look and sound good.
This is what I do with mine....

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Post by kaivalagi » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:11 pm

Muppet wrote:Kai, I hate to say this, but that left 'zorst is twisted off vertical more than the right one. Other than that, they look and sound good.
I'll take a look again and adjust, thanks, it had been a long day :)
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Post by lcjohnny » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:39 pm

Jon, What can I expect at UK MOT stage with these JC exhausts, they have no markings at all...? I wont be getting the stock ones back on again...not without some serious help to remove the rusted in bolts
Kai I am not sure - have not been there yet - I got through a UK MOT with cans on a Ducati Monster - it will be find a friendly garage time :)

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