Remus link pipe heat shield

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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by DaveNZ » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:38 am

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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by pk1 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:41 pm

I’ve never reved it out in top gear seen 142mph and it was still pulling like a train. I changed the front sprocket before I removed the cat, but did notice an improvement in low rev running after cat was removed.
If you check gearing commander it’s not much diff from 16front 38 rear than 17front 40 rear so not as much as 3 teeth on the back.
The bike will now pull along at 60 mph plus in top gear without judder and even 45mph in 5th gear .
30 mph through towns in 4th all without judder.
I may try the 17 on the front again with the decat done but I think all round it’s easier to drive now as is.
I’ve just ordered o2 removal kit from eBay not rotty as I’m a cheapskate😂😂 so will see if it’s any different.
I’m going to leave the sas kit for moment with just the canister removed.
Probably won’t get much more use this year as winters coming fast but I’ve managed 5k miles since may so all in all been a good year.
I had a chuckle to myself said I wouldn’t tinker or mod the gt after I spent a fortune doing so on my smt but this forum just causes you to do things😜

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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by reciprocation23 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:33 pm

pk1 wrote:I’ve never reved it out in top gear seen 142mph and it was still pulling like a train. I changed the front sprocket before I removed the cat, but did notice an improvement in low rev running after cat was removed.
If you check gearing commander it’s not much diff from 16front 38 rear than 17front 40 rear so not as much as 3 teeth on the back.
The bike will now pull along at 60 mph plus in top gear without judder and even 45mph in 5th gear .
30 mph through towns in 4th all without judder.
I may try the 17 on the front again with the decat done but I think all round it’s easier to drive now as is.
I’ve just ordered o2 removal kit from eBay not rotty as I’m a cheapskateImageImage so will see if it’s any different.
I’m going to leave the sas kit for moment with just the canister removed.
Probably won’t get much more use this year as winters coming fast but I’ve managed 5k miles since may so all in all been a good year.
I had a chuckle to myself said I wouldn’t tinker or mod the gt after I spent a fortune doing so on my smt but this forum just causes you to do thingsImage
I think I may try the sprocket too. I hear you regarding the mods! I said I wasn't going to modify my GT. Yeah right! People seem to swear by rotty, so I'm going with them.

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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by mick shere » Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:45 pm

The sprocket seems a popular choice

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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by pk1 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:55 pm

I put a rotty style filter on my smt but to do it right you need a power commander and custom map!
On the gt I can’t get my head around how this works when you change from sport to street etc, if the map is Dyno tuned for sport it can’t be right on street ? Am I missing something?
I had 2 maps on my smt with a switch to change but that’s too much on the gt.

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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by DaveNZ » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:13 pm

Wish the factory would come out with a map for the GT like they did for the 1290R, that map made huge difference to the R, it turned Sport into an angry child.
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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by reciprocation23 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:22 pm

Idk, if you turn off traction control on the gt it gets pretty hairy...

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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by pk1 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:46 pm

Just been on the remus website they show a gain in hp and torque with the link pipe and can with no mention of a re map
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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield now with dyno run

Post by pk1 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:41 pm

Just been to the local dealers had dyno run surprised by the results 143rwhp and 91.2for torque
pk1 wrote:Just been on the remus website they show a gain in hp and torque with the link pipe and can with no mention of a re map
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Showed me some maps of 1290sdr with akro made 159bhp these are rwhp figures thought these would be putting out more? My main reason to do this was for peace of mind that it wasn’t too lean. Looking at the af ratio it slightly lean from 3600 to 5700 but nothing to worry about.
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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by Aussie Dave » Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:34 am

Just for anyone doing research..... and because I'm late to the decat crowd...... I have tested the 40t rear and also the 16t front.

My feeling is that ideal gearing would be 17/42....... as my 17Gt is very traffic friendly with 16/40 and cruises at 130kph in 6th at 5000rpm. It will pull 6th from 100 at 4000rpms, but only just....... it's happier in 6th at 4250/110kph. I think I prefer the 17 up front so adding 4 teeth out the back with a longer new chain should be ideal when the time for a new chain comes around ;) .

I still have the cat and stock muffler with a K&N airfilter and 27,000kms on the dash (and have re-fitted my O2 dongles & ESE in conjunction with the 2019 ECU software).

I just ordered an MiVV Suono muffler as an Xmas pressey to myself, and thanks to DaveNZ and you guys, I'm emboldened to also fit a link pipe as it seems the AFR's are pretty close with O2 dongles + 2019 software upgrade (I'll leave the Db killer in as DaveNZ has done).

I also didn't want to open up a can of worms and spend big on re-mapping..... just wanted a nice fresh look to my 17GT and a bit more music...... but without sacrificing any power or fuel range :mrgreen:
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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by Aussie Dave » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:08 am

Cheers pk1...... I was looking at the Remus dyno chart you posted above...... I think they show corrected figures to compare with the factory engine dyno - not real world rear wheel dyno figures. If not, then they are surely fully remapped and airbox modded figures.

My MiVV info specifies an increase of 2 to 3 hp, which equates to the Remus plots, ignoring the actual numbers.

So your actual dyno run at 143hp (but cut short at 8k rpms instead of through to the max at 9500 or so) would probably be the same for the Remus if the dyno's were calibrated the same. I'm pretty sure they have adjusted the figures to compare with the factory engine dyno readings of 173hp at the crank, not the stock 150hp at the rear wheel......... and your system could have been producing around 153hp if they had run it to 9500rpms.

If you really wanted 10-15 more hp then you would need to do the airbox, PC5, Autotune, etc etc money trail.

I think the GT goes well anyway, and if a mid pipe and a fancy muffler makes it a bit lighter and sound nicer as well as add 3 hp without sacrificing any power & torque elsewhere, for minimal cost...... then that's a good outcome ;) .

Here's hoping I feel the same after my MiVV Suono and mid pipe arrive in a week or 2...... :lol: .

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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by pk1 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:39 am

Dave this dyno was before I put the sprint filter and booster plug on, I installed the booster plug at the same time as I was concerned it would be too lean with the free flowing filter. I’ve never had it back on the dyno since but from the seat of my pants dyno 😂 this made a big difference on pick up . If I’m 2 up I have to short shift or the front lifts in all gears.
Maybe 1 day I will dyno it again but the filter and booster made a bigger difference than the decat did.
The acceleration is a lot more aggressive and the fuel consumption is better than when I had the o2 sensors plugged and dongled.
Ps and I still have all the maps unlike a pcv install.and a lot less cost😊

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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by Aussie Dave » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:12 am

Good to know..... my mid pipe & can are on the way..... and I picked up an SAS kit from SmartMoto electronics so once I get it all installed (and do the 10-15min idle reset procedure) I'll see if I need the booster plug with my K&N filter stock airbox...... front wheelies in all gears (TC off?) would be a hoot - all up I spent under a $k Au which is heaps less than just one Accra muffler....... so I'll be pleased if it all works nicely and sounds great.

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Re: Remus link pipe heat shield

Post by Aussie Dave » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:04 am

Thanks heaps pk1, I approached Booster Plug and 'Jens' emailed me some great information.

I have ordered a B/P and will take Jens advice to re-install my O2 probes immediately. He says that the O2 dongles cause the ECU to run as rich as it can, all the time, for all rpms, and waste fuel. His recommendation was to run the O2 probes so the SDGT can tune itself for med-high rpm riding (in closed loop), and to use the Booster Plug to richen up the idle/low rpm (open loop) where the ECU ignores the O2 probes anyway and is set to a slightly leaner AFR for Euro 4/5.

Anyway, Jens says for a decat, open muffler, SAS delete, the B/P richens the idle/low rpm open loop AFR's, removing the flat spot/stalling caused by the freer flowing exhaust system......yet allows the GT to adjust itself for higher rpm using data from the O2 sensors. Makes sense to me for road riding - track work is different.

I eagerly await delivery..... in the meantime, I will re-install my O2 sensors as recommended by Jens. ;)
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