Pushing the GT in 1st gear

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Pushing the GT in 1st gear

Post by Twisty » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:59 pm

Hey guys.
When I try to move my turned-off GT around the garage with the clutch squeezed and the bike in 1st gear, it's really difficult to move around. When I put her in Neutral, it's easy to move her around. I'm confused by that. It makes no difference moving my turned-off BMW R12R around whether it's in 1st with the clutch squeezed or in Neutral. Is there some difference with this due to a chain vs. shaft drive? I would think with the bike in 1st with the clutch squeezed it should act like it's in neutral, no?
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Re: Pushing the GT in 1st gear

Post by jjscsix » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:07 pm

You might try adjusting the clutch lever to be sure it is fully disengaged. Also, you have to remember that they are "wet" clutches meaning they have oil between the plates. If it's cold outside the oil is thicker and could possibly cause that. I'm going purely by theory as I don't have a SD (yet!) and have never experienced that
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Re: Pushing the GT in 1st gear

Post by GaryCulb » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:05 pm

The Clutch Lever on the KTM SDGT is well known by KTM riders to be a bit temperature dependent & tempermental/ touchy. Two simple solutions are available:

-Power Cell Performance: https://www.powercellperformance.com/sh ... -cylinder/
- Oberon: http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/ob ... 1190-1290/

Went with the fully adjustable model from PCP. It is great. Note the SW-Motech Clutch cover will not fit with the PCP clutch slave cylinder model ( http://shop.sw-motech.com/cgi-bin/cosmo ... =286777487 ).

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Re: Pushing the GT in 1st gear

Post by Twisty » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:42 pm

So just to confirm, it’s not supposed to be difficult to roll the turned off bike in 1st gear and the clutch squeezed? It should be just as easy as if it is in neutral?

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Re: Pushing the GT in 1st gear

Post by GaryCulb » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:37 pm

Mine doesn't do that in 1st gear. There were certain mechanical add-ons or accessories that my KTM Dealer highly recommended. This was one of them. If you desire the full list of there recommendations E-Mail me at garyculb18@gmail.com & I will send it to you. Or, I can post if there is allot of interest?? Best,

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Re: Pushing the GT in 1st gear

Post by DaveNZ » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:51 am

10-60 weight new oil, going to make more drag, than say 10-40, so heres and idea, try neutral before pushing it around. :lol:
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Re: Pushing the GT in 1st gear

Post by AllanP » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:13 pm

I've been riding since 1965 and have owned and ridden a lot of bikes. I've never seen one that was as easy to push in first gear with the clutch lever pulled back as it is in neutral including dry-clutch race bikes. In my experience they all exhibit clutch drag to one degree or another. My SD-GT is harder to push this way and I'm sure it just a characteristic of the bike's wet clutch, not a problem.

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Re: Pushing the GT in 1st gear

Post by Twisty » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:26 pm

Thanks Allan :)

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Re: Pushing the GT in 1st gear

Post by GaryCulb » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:28 pm

I stand corrected. When I went outside this morning. It was 17 degrees in SC- USA, put the bike in 1st and tried to move the SDGT. It was extremely difficult. Did not try moving it with the bike started. Best,

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Re: Pushing the GT in 1st gear

Post by Clogan » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:24 am

AllanP wrote:I've been riding since 1965 and have owned and ridden a lot of bikes. I've never seen one that was as easy to push in first gear with the clutch lever pulled back as it is in neutral including dry-clutch race bikes. In my experience they all exhibit clutch drag to one degree or another. My SD-GT is harder to push this way and I'm sure it just a characteristic of the bike's wet clutch, not a problem.
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Re: Pushing the GT in 1st gear

Post by Aussie Dave » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:01 am

Cheers all...... I had a Ducati rider call me one morning......her crutch was stuck and she didn't know how to unstick-it.....(yeah alright, settle down :roll: ).

When i got there, I sat on the bike, pulled the lever in, and fired the 921 up no problems(though i was ready for an involuntary take off - didn't happen ;) ).....it was just some plate stiction from sitting for a couple of weeks and needed a start to break them free again. It was so stuck that the bike would not roll forward/backward at all with lever fully in and in 1st.

All normal......the Italian's must use clutch plates that stick to each other - or the springs are really strong ;)

I think my Honda would be hard to push in gear using the clutch (prob impossible).....didn't think to check the GT this morning, but it starts in neutral and doesn't clunk into 1st like some bikes I've heard .. :lol:
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Re: Pushing the GT in 1st gear

Post by Twisty » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:18 pm

Thanks guys. Good to know it’s not an issue with the SDGT. Like I said, my BMW R1200R is easy to push around in 1st with the clutch squeezed. It has a dry clutch though. Maybe that’s the difference.

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