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Quick shifter not working

Post by Twisty » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:34 pm

Hey guys.

Well, I finally picked up my '16 GT and rode it home 4+ hours on crowded interstate in mid-40's temps.
My initial impressions--
First the positives:
-The motor--great character--especially with low gear acceleration. Great sound too. It's a somewhat refined beast.
-Sitting position--somewhat upright with knees tucked. I liked it. Probably great for the twisties.
-Brakes--instilled confidence the more I used them.
-Appearance--it's simply a beautiful, unique bike. I really like it.
-Downshifting with the slipper clutch/MSR--at least I think it was activated. I blip when I downshift and it was very smooth and easy.
-Smooth, non turbulent air hitting the helmet. I still will probably put on a taller Puig screen for long trips because it was lots of air--but at least it was clean without buffeting. When lane checking before changing lanes at highway speed, it takes effort to actually turn the head back forward.
-I tried a few suspension settings and settled for 1 rider + luggage and comfort for the interstate. It was fine for that. I never hit any big bumps. It was somewhat stiff, but not terrible at all.

The negatives:
-The bike is not designed for long, boring interstate rides in lots of traffic. I opted for the ergo heated seat. While it was warm, after a few hours I was feeling it. I brought along a Air Hawk and put it on after a couple of hours--helped some but not perfect. I'll reserve judgement on the seat until I actually push the bike in the mountains where it was designed for.
-Absolutely geared too high for my riding style. I'm definitely going to switch to a 40T rear sprocket. I'm not used to riding at 50mph in 3rd! The bike seems to love 4000-5000 rpm. I'm breaking in the bike, so I didn't push it above 6000.
-The quickshifter wasn't functioning. Is this something that can be turned on and off? The one on the demo I tried worked great. Now all the time I've ridden I've never had a quickshifter, so I can live without one. I pushed pretty hard up on the shifter and---nothing until I engaged the clutch. I had the Motor Slip Regulation (MSR) software upgrade. I wonder if somehow when the tech installed that it disabled the quickshifter. BTW, there is no indication on the dash menu about MSR. So I'm not even sure if it has actually been installed.
-Position of the brake and clutch levers--angled too high for me. I'm sure it can be adjusted.
-Rear brake very weak. I was surprised how hard I had to push down on it to actually slow the bike down in slow speed maneuvers.

Anyhoo, these are just initial impressions after a miserable cold ride on an interstate. The bike showed flashes of brilliance when accelerating. I look forward to get to know her in the proper setting of the mountains. I'll bring her in for the 600 mile check up and have the quick shifter issue looked at.

Peter

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Re: Quick shifter not working

Post by Superdave99 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:16 pm

I think the quick shifter works best when giving it the beans but mine seems to work pretty well when accelerating (medium i guess) . When taking off like a grandma mine acts like that. So what im trying to say is see if it works better twisting the wrist more. It should put a big :D :o on the face :D i dont have the MSR activated so dont know if it interfers with it. But the quick shifter function is supposed to be standard. Just my 2 cents...

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Re: Quick shifter not working

Post by Clogan » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:54 pm

Be sure quick shifter has been activated in your settings menu...mine had not. Menu is pretty intuitive, but it's covered in the manual if you need a reference.

OP has Good observations all around... I'll just add:

Ive gotten used to riding in a lower gear, and at a higher rpm than I have ever before. This bike foes NOT like to be operated below 4,000...regardless of what gear you are in. Seems pointless to change sprockets simply to be able to ride in a higher gear; you are still gonna need to be above 4500 rpms, regardless.

Had not noticed poor rear brake. In 2,600 miles so far, I don't know that I have ever used the rear brake...except when stopped.

I added a Cal Sci wind screen. 4" wider, and 6" taller than OEM. MUCH better in cold weather.

Now that mine's broken in, I've wrung it out a bit... it's the fastest, quickest bike I have ever ridden. Much quicker than the Busa I used to have. This bike could get REAL dangerous if youre not very careful. When you hit 10,000 rpms, it's like warp speed: traffic in other lanes just becomes a blur!

Let's all ride safely out there!

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Re: Quick shifter not working

Post by Twisty » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:19 am

Thanks guys.

So I checked the settings menu after referring to the owners manual and the option to turn on the quickshifter is not there. I'm not surprised--when the tech installed the MSR, the bike was delivered without the ability to adjust suspension. It also didn't have a menu for the heated grips and seat. I think when he fixed those, he probably inadvertently knocked out the quickshifter. Hopefully it's an easy enough fix using the KTM computer. A quickshifter is nice, but I can live without it and use the clutch for now.

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Re: Quick shifter not working

Post by DaveNZ » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:00 am

When i first brought my GT the quick shifter didn't work, it was turned on in the menu setting, so at 1000K service they reset the parameters its works in, and its been brilliant since.
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Re: Quick shifter not working

Post by Aussie Dave » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:35 am

Yeah, my local tech said they normally activate the QS at the 1000km/620m warranty service....KTM prob think you shouldn't use the QS until the gearbox has scrubbed a few rough edges off........but they activated mine from day 1 anyway........that's cause I say please and thankyou....... :lol:

When the thing is brand new it wants you to use higher rpms......this will change with age......I think mine started to 'allow' me to cruise in 3rd on light throttle loading at 3000rpms (like close to home in light traffic 60kph/35mph conditions) after I had about 3000kms up......,anyway, now I can use any gear at any rev, but i tend not to load a motor when it is so easy to use a beautiful gearbox... and never ever try to ride at 60mph in 6th.....the motor will complain bitterly.......happy at 4500-5000 in 5th .... shows 22km/Ltr hwy fuel cons (60mpg!) too after it frees up fully :D

Just remember, new machinery, 13.x to 1 compression, almost no flywheel weight.......you know, like a race motor....... let it scrub in - revs won't hurt it, I think the owners manual says just don't give it full power in the first few 00kms. So it's ok to spin it to 6k then gradually start increasing the power as the engine feels free-er.

If KTM are anything like the Suzuki factory doco I saw rears ago.......where a new GSX1000 was wheeled off the assembly line over to wall with the rear wheel on the rolling road ...errr rollers......the operator started the bike and within seconds was reving it to redline through all the gears......... ;) It was quick, no heat involved and I suppose they do that to confirm power and correct assembly. Imagine if a guy came running with a bottle of oil........ :oops:

Ps try scrubbing the rear brake in while riding......maybe it just needs to bed the pads in. Pre delivery is the vital key.....if it's not pads then it might be an ABS parameter (like I know what I'm talking about :roll: )

Pps Just a quick thought - I can't see why, but KTM told me to tape/lock the rear rake reservoir cap on - mine is so tight I can't even unscrew it.......but apparently some had fallen off in earlier years - I just put a small piece of electrical insulation tape around the cap......maybe I'll splash out on a fancy orange cap one day.......maybe that will get stolen......maybe the plastic cap is best.... :?
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Re: Quick shifter not working

Post by mick shere » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:18 pm

Great write up guys, a tremendous amount of information in all the replies :D

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Re: Quick shifter not working

Post by Aussie Dave » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:04 pm

Went for a breakfast ride Saturday morning before it got to 32C........ feel better now :)

My QS works great even at intermediate revs......like showing off in suburban 70kph zones.....I just brrr brrr brr and I'm at 70 klicks and cars are still just crossing the threshold at the traffic lights.... :D Never thought I'd ever think a QS was necessary but I've totally changed that opinion ;)

I still like downshifting and blipping myself so I don't miss the auto downshifter other bikes get.....
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Re: Quick shifter not working

Post by RDKLL » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:47 am

I love the little "pop" when QSing up...

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Re: Quick shifter not working

Post by Aussie Dave » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:20 am

Ahhh, so you're still pulling on the crutch lever like I used to eh?

Gives a nice little pop as the two actions interfere with each other....... nowadays, when I decide to QS I just boot the lever up like I mean it and hold that throttle on.. :lol:.....took me a while to stop myself doing the reflex throttle feather thingy too ;)
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