Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by dasjefe » Tue May 15, 2018 5:28 pm

I like the orange engine guards. Is that aftermarket or did you paint the stock ones?

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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by AndyW » Tue May 15, 2018 7:36 pm

Stock items blasted and powder coated...RAL2004, nearest 'pure' colour match, KTM orange is obviously a blend. The colour match is not perfect but as the parts are not close to any oem orange parts, good enough.
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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by DaveNZ » Wed May 16, 2018 3:20 am

Just admiring your bike Andy, Full system-nice, i see you fitted the ESE, hiding the plug is awkward, i see you zip tied it to the frame, i made a bracket up for the rear brake fluid container, looks similar to yours, did you do the rotweiler O2 sensor removal plus and dongles?, seems to help with the low end fueling i found.
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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by AndyW » Wed May 16, 2018 9:40 am

Hi Dave, I'll look for a tidier solution for locating the ESE (if possible) when I get time.....maybe when the tank is next off it could tuck under the rear of it somewhere.
SAS and Evap cannister physically removed and dongles for the electronics - O2 sensors left in place and active as I've got Hilltop Motorcycles ECU 'tune' which actually benefits from the O2's being in place still. Very happy, all running good, propably as smooth as you can get at low rpm e.g 30 and 40mph at constant throttle in 3rd and 4th respectively....pulls from 3000+ rpm (gentle'ish throttle). Not I4 smooth but then this is a big V Twin.

I have read plenty of good feedback on the Rottweiler fuelling/O2 dongles (other brands are available lol) but obviously a remap of some sort and/or Dyno work is best.

Exhaust hanger is still my own fix, ok but not as neat as I'd like....waiting on mate to complete a CAD drawing for a bespoke hanger :D

Anyone thinking of fitting the SDR Akrapovic EVO full system.....be aware, it's not too easy in some respects ;-)
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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by vinjah » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:07 pm

Seems the photos in the first post have disappeared again. I’m digging under the tank looking for the O2 connector from rear cyl and was hoping to lift the rear of tank enough to find it but no luck.

Anyone else see the photos or maybe just my problem?

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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by Aussie Dave » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:28 am

G'day Vinjah......

Same as you...... photo's are gone from the first post...... all called 'image' now :(

I use a laptop and google home page for access (I know, so old skool/out of date :roll: ) so i think it might be a forum archive thing as Tancarkar has moved on to another brand.

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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by Aussie Dave » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:56 am

I have the removal saved on my laptop, but it won't attach to a PM......... maybe it will attach here.....
1290 Fuel Tank Removal.zip
(1.49 MiB) Downloaded 72 times

Yes...... it worked.......yahoo....... :lol: :roll:
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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by AndyW » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:06 am

Looks like the photo host service Tancakar used is dead....
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/s31.postimg.org

...try messaging him and ask if he can repost.
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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by vinjah » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:59 am

Aussie Dave wrote:
Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:56 am
I have the removal saved on my laptop, but it won't attach to a PM......... maybe it will attach here.....
Aussie Dave-- you are a king among men! Thank you thank you!! This is going to get me moving in the right direction. Thanks mate!

(I work in a University library and people ask me all the time why libraries still exist... after all there's Google. Well, this is a small example of how nothing is permanent. And Aussie Dave proved how having a secondary repository is a very good thing!)

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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by Aussie Dave » Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:21 am

Glad to be of assistance........ also very glad I had the 'brain snap' to save Tanc's procedure as I have not yet attempted to remove my fuel tank........ still trapped by warranty period (2 years here in Aus) but also nothing has needed attention/forced me to go under the hood as yet.

When I am allowed to ride again, and clock up enough kms to get the 15,000km service done I'll have my KTM tech's install my K & N airfilter as well as do the fuel pump and brake plunger recall........ in the meantime I'm just running the motor up to full temp each month and charging the battery..... waiting for the day I'm given the all clear to get back into driving & riding....... ;)

OK, loyal subject, bow before your mighty ( :roll: ) king and I will knight you....... if I'm allowed to lift this heavy sword...... :lol:

Best wishes from the dark side of the planet......
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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by Massimo » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:10 am

AndyW wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 9:40 am
Hi Dave, I'll look for a tidier solution for locating the ESE (if possible) when I get time.....maybe when the tank is next off it could tuck under the rear of it somewhere.
SAS and Evap cannister physically removed and dongles for the electronics - O2 sensors left in place and active as I've got Hilltop Motorcycles ECU 'tune' which actually benefits from the O2's being in place still. Very happy, all running good, propably as smooth as you can get at low rpm e.g 30 and 40mph at constant throttle in 3rd and 4th respectively....pulls from 3000+ rpm (gentle'ish throttle). Not I4 smooth but then this is a big V Twin.

I have read plenty of good feedback on the Rottweiler fuelling/O2 dongles (other brands are available lol) but obviously a remap of some sort and/or Dyno work is best.

Exhaust hanger is still my own fix, ok but not as neat as I'd like....waiting on mate to complete a CAD drawing for a bespoke hanger :D

Anyone thinking of fitting the SDR Akrapovic EVO full system.....be aware, it's not too easy in some respects ;-)
Hi, Just back in the SD world after 2 years of "diversion" on a s1000XR.... before I had a SDR now a GT that I really start to love.
I removed the canister and related tubing but I left the vacuum valve since I couldn't get rid of the Check Engine Light.
Do you know the value (Ohm) of the resistor in the Evaporate dongle?

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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by AndyW » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:36 am

Sorry I don't....on receiving the dongle I bought I did think about checking what the value of the resister used was but then thought why bother?!
The dongles are not expensive and the bonus is that you get a proper electrical connector.
I bought from this guy...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_ssn= ... 0&_sacat=0

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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by Massimo » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:54 am

Probably just curiosity and the fun to do yourself stuff instead buying it.... somebody told me to check by Ohmmeter the resistance of the part you want to remove and replace it with a resistor of the same value in order to fool the system.
The Evap valve has an internal resistance of 15.5 Ohm so I was curios to double check that value and the information received without the risk of a direct sperimentation.
Anyway in this case the cheapest whay to solve the problem is to loop together the inlet and the outlet of the valve whit a hose and forget it there and that's what I have done at the moment.
So if u are curious like me the first time u will have the chance to check the internal resistance of your dongle would be interesting to see if it's close to 15.5 Ohm.

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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by Aussie Dave » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:26 am

Cheers Massimo,

I have been wondering if there was a simple way of getting around the canister dongle and after being off the forum since mid January (it just died and some UK & Aus & NZ members just couldn't log on), I log on and there is the solution ........ :D

I wasn't impressed with the freight costs from the USA to Aus...... the dongle/resistor in a connector was cheap, but the freight to Aus was $70...... ouch....... so I was thinking of another way to do the canisteremectomy and saw your post 8-) .

Many thanks :)
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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by AndyW » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:28 pm

The guy I bought my dongle from quotes £3.30 international standard post to Aus or £8.50 for international tracked......not sure who was quoting $70 :-0 (greedy 'mericans I suspect! lol)
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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by Aussie Dave » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:58 am

Thanks Andythegeek :lol:

I'm looking at the infernal website now and your contact looks KO....... i haven't had a look under the tank again yet, so i may as well order the resistor plug...... I probably could do the massimo loop solution ...... Plug and play feels a lot safer and the freight charges from the UK are way more sensible than from Revzilla or Rotweiller and others......

8-)

Ps Order placed.... $38Au inc delivery so that's a heap better than $100 delivered from the USA......
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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by AndyW » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:01 pm

Pre Brexit purchase possibly wise lol
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Re: Fuel Tank Removal, Emissions equipment removal for GT

Post by Aussie Dave » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:17 pm

Pre-breakfast purchase.... :o ..... oh, wait, pre-Brexit.... :lol:

Yeah, I wonder how that will afflict life as we know it.... storm in a D cup, or major travesty..... who really knows?

Nobody believes our politicians out here in the colonies either....... only difference is that we find out more nowdays with internet/communications advances making it more difficult for them to hide their dodgy secrets :lol:

Royal mail has been engaged..... so I'll sit back and wait for my canister dongle to arrive at HRH's pleasure...
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