'16 vs '17 GT

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'16 vs '17 GT

Post by dogrange » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:08 pm

Hi all,

Rode the SD GT at a KTM demo day and am now thinking about getting one. Is there any difference between the '16 and the '17 versions, or can the dealer update the software in the '16 to be the same as '17?

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Re: '16 vs '17 GT

Post by Twisty » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:59 pm

My advice is to stay AWAY from the '16. Far away.

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Re: '16 vs '17 GT

Post by dogrange » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:43 pm

I was wondering . . . What is the difference to the ‘17?


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Re: '16 vs '17 GT

Post by Twisty » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:14 pm

The reliability of the '16's is subpar--issues with suspension, rough idle. Search the forum--you'll find the problems. Always better to buy a bike after its initial release year.

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Re: '16 vs '17 GT

Post by DaveNZ » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:27 pm

I have a 2016, only issue has been the stand spur. The 2017 are much the same, they have a few tweeks in the suspension electronics, a different colour options, not much else that i know of. If the 16 is heavily depreciated compared to the 17, then its a bargin. 26,000kms on mine so far.
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Re: '16 vs '17 GT

Post by Newbusa » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:03 am

I must be lucky then, no issues with my 2016 :mrgreen:

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Re: '16 vs '17 GT

Post by Aussie Dave » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:11 am

Just to add to the other Dave's words of wisdom...... my GT is the 2017 version (has LED rear indicators) but it was actually assembled in Nov 2016. So I think the issue might be more about the assembly of the initial 2016 builds. The later 16's like DaveNZ's appear to be fine.

Have a look on the left frame rail (underside) for a silver sticker with the build date. I guess if it's after june 016 it should be fine as the factory would have sorted it's assembly woe's out by then..... and started to get stock out to dealerships (took 12months to get my GT after the first Aussie shipment sold out before hitting the dock's).

Dealers technician's should be more experienced by now and able to sort any issues out .... maybe have a talk with your local Ktm mechanic to see what he knows....... ;)
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Re: '16 vs '17 GT

Post by akarmire » Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:35 am

16' model here with very few problems so far. 10K miles on the clock, all I've had is the kickstand spur broke the 2nd day as well as the rear brake reservoir cap falling off.
I had a suspension error ,but found out I cause it by not tightening a bolt when I was installing the cover to my servo when adding my Remus mid pipe. My Ducati was at the shop as much as it was in my garage. Yes I've been upset with the suspension a few times but it mostly boiled down to air pressures. Plus I bet I can wheelie my 16' just as far as anybody's 17'

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Re: '16 vs '17 GT

Post by dogrange » Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:47 pm

akarmire wrote:16' model here with very few problems so far. 10K miles on the clock, all I've had is the kickstand spur broke the 2nd day as well as the rear brake reservoir cap falling off.
I had a suspension error ,but found out I cause it by not tightening a bolt when I was installing the cover to my servo when adding my Remus mid pipe. My Ducati was at the shop as much as it was in my garage. Yes I've been upset with the suspension a few times but it mostly boiled down to air pressures. Plus I bet I can wheelie my 16' just as far as anybody's 17' Image

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Does the suspension have user serviceable air pressure? Not sure what you mean by air pressure issues with the suspension.


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Re: '16 vs '17 GT

Post by akarmire » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:46 am

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akarmire wrote:16' model here with very few problems so far. 10K miles on the clock, all I've had is the kickstand spur broke the 2nd day as well as the rear brake reservoir cap falling off.
I had a suspension error ,but found out I cause it by not tightening a bolt when I was installing the cover to my servo when adding my Remus mid pipe. My Ducati was at the shop as much as it was in my garage. Yes I've been upset with the suspension a few times but it mostly boiled down to air pressures. Plus I bet I can wheelie my 16' just as far as anybody's 17' Image

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Does the suspension have user serviceable air pressure? Not sure what you mean by air pressure issues with the suspension.


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Sorry I wasn't very clear on that.....tire pressure is what I meant on that. Keep fresh tires on them too, it seems like a half wore tire on this semi active suspension feels like a completely wore out tire on a bike with standard suspension. I just had some Q3+'s put on last week and the bike feels so much better.

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Re: '16 vs '17 GT

Post by jcsh » Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:41 pm

As I mentioned on another thread, I've owned both the 16 and now the 17. Night and day in the riding due to the suspension of the 16 being awful and even downright dangerous 2 up. Way too little rebound damping and possibly too much compression damping. Wanted to throw me off mid corner if there was any kind of bump. Plus pogo'd like mad. 17 actually a very nice bike. Pleased I bought it.

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Re: '16 vs '17 GT

Post by vet57air » Sat May 18, 2019 10:05 pm

I received the first new 2016 GT in North America. It was the display bike at the GT North America release in Whistler B.C. Still have it with about 14,000 KM. Never have had any issues and love it.

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Re: '16 vs '17 GT

Post by Aussie Dave » Mon May 20, 2019 5:56 am

As far as I can work out from reading reports on a few forums, some early build 16's needed a front fork work over as the WP supplied forks were a bit too harsh (I think they re-shim'd the internals). Not all had the issue. (the 19 model got some significant upgrades but I think the 16-18 model run was pretty much unchanged ie same motor, brakes, WP suspension, seats, cases......+ all software upgrades should have been downloaded to the early 16 models by now).

As for tyres.... I still have the oem Angel GT's on (12,400kms), the rear has flattened off visibly and the front has worn sides as expected, yet the SDGT still rolls nicely into corners - I should remind all that I run 34-35psi front & 36-37psi rear (with the annoying warning message dissabled, but the TPMS pressure readout enabled). Also (been moonlighting on the Honda Blackbird forum.... steering head bearings have a huge effect on handling and tyre wear...... and if they are not set or seated properly, that can cause issues). One SDGT owner found his steering bearings were loose from new, and once tightened correctly and his forks set to 2-3 rings up through the clamps, he was super happy with the result.



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On a breaking news item (on the KTM Forum)...... it is possible that ktm tech's are already downloading the new 19's suspension software as part of routine service updates....... I am not certain of this but a UK rider suspects his has been done...... and I think mine might have been updated recently, but I haven't done enough kms to verify - though I was using 'comfort' damping last weekend and it felt nice and didn't seem to pogo around as much as I can remember (haven't used "comfort" for 18months+) so I could be dreaming.... :roll: .

I will try to ask next time I drop in to my KTM shop....... a good test will be with the cases on and a load of luggage...... ;) .

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