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supergt
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Heat Shield

Post by supergt » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:31 pm

Just got back from 2k trip in BC. Roads were great, weather was hot (27C). One of the main issues was my legs were cooking from the engine heat. Had to ride with them splayed out to get some wind to them. Anyone here adapt some sort of a heat shield yet :?: . It was like a blow dryer aimed at your inner thighs.

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Re: Heat Shield

Post by GaryCulb » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:27 pm

I agree. It gets hot in SC. As long as I am moving over 55 mph everything is OK. I guess you are not supposed to be going slow on a KTM SDGT??

Did take Termo-tech ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002 ... UTF8&psc=1) & put it under the seat and on the cat heat shield. Really did not help very much.

Have friend that have removed the cat on a SDR. He said the heat was a bit less but still complained of the heat at low speeds. Seems to be coming from the V-Twin?? Best,

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Re: Heat Shield

Post by Aussie Dave » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:53 pm

G'day supergt,

Has your GT got the silver heat shield sock around the rear exhaust pipe? I only notice some heat when I stop at traffic lights and even then it's not uncomfortble...... just noticeable...... but I am 32" leg and 5' 9.5" for comparo.

I often wonder if hot running on various models/brands of bike might be caused by fuels - Aussies are lucky to enjoy a choice of non-ethanol 95 or 98 octane...... I wonder if that makes the motor run cooler or if it may be a sensor/tuning concern? (we get lots of 27C-34C days in summer).
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Re: Heat Shield

Post by supergt » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:50 am

Yup, looks like a silver wrap is on there. I use 92-94 octane here. Heat seems to be coming up from around the front of the seat from the engine so will have to see if i can try to jimmy some type of deflector on either side high up on the trellis frame to see if that helps at all.
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Re: Heat Shield

Post by supergt » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:24 pm

Ok, just tried to mock up something real quick to see if it works. Figured most of the heat was coming from one area right onto the inner thigh. Put some sticky aluminum repair tape and then a black rubber scrap over top to cover and insulate. Will see how this goes.
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Re: Heat Shield

Post by DaveNZ » Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:00 am

supergt wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:24 pm
Ok, just tried to mock up something real quick to see if it works. Figured most of the heat was coming from one area right onto the inner thigh. Put some sticky aluminum repair tape and then a black rubber scrap over top to cover and insulate. Will see how this goes.
Do you still have the CAT fitted, those things are heat sinks, the engine will love you for removing that hot piece of metal, and it will allow more airflow around that rear cylinder exhaust pipe.
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Re: Heat Shield

Post by supergt » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:03 am

Yes, the cat is still on there. Have to check to see if it'll void any warranty if I start removing bits. Would love to trash that piece for sure and put on a remus link and can as well.
Took it out for a bit of a run and was really hard to tell if this helped at all or it was just my imagination that it seemed cooler.

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Re: Heat Shield

Post by GaryCulb » Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:25 pm

If you remove the cat some have noticed no dramatic decrease in the heat produced by the KTM SDGT. The majority of the heat seems to be coming from the engine??

If you remove the cat be ready to pay some significant cash outlay to adjust the KTM SDGT. My KTM dealer recommended the following as the most definitive solution for removing the cat on the KTM SDGT to provide the best performance in the bike:

http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/powercommander-v/

http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/au ... wide-band/ , 18mm O2 sensors have to welded in place or http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/ar ... 1190-1290/

http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/dy ... on-module/

http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/ez ... ay-switch/

https://www.healtech-electronics.com/products/ese/

Maybe someone has already made this modification & can comment on the change in heat. Best,

Doc :? :?

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Re: Heat Shield

Post by DaveNZ » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:17 am

GaryCulb wrote:
Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:25 pm
If you remove the cat some have noticed no dramatic decrease in the heat produced by the KTM SDGT. The majority of the heat seems to be coming from the engine??

If you remove the cat be ready to pay some significant cash outlay to adjust the KTM SDGT. My KTM dealer recommended the following as the most definitive solution for removing the cat on the KTM SDGT to provide the best performance in the bike:

http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/powercommander-v/

http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/au ... wide-band/ , 18mm O2 sensors have to welded in place or http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/ar ... 1190-1290/

http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/dy ... on-module/

http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/ez ... ay-switch/

https://www.healtech-electronics.com/products/ese/

Maybe someone has already made this modification & can comment on the change in heat. Best,

Doc :? :?
I removed my CAT, and it did reduce the head coming off the bike, that huge 6kgs of metal stays hot for along time after turning the bike off. my exhaust was damaged in an off i had, so i wasn't going to spend money on an original exhaust at a wicked price, so ibrought the Remus muffler and link pipe, i did Rottweiler stage 2 SAS removal kit and Rottweiler O2 sensor removal kit, and the Healtec ESE, bike runs beautifully, nice fueling around town
2016 1290GT-remus link and muffler, 2010 Black 1200 Multistrada full Termi system with mapping, 2005 SMR 640, full Titanium system, Mikuni flatside racing carb, 2 sets of wheels, 18 litre tank, and a nice soft seat.

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Re: Heat Shield

Post by SuperDukeGT » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:43 pm

I purchased all of the Rottweiller 'drugs' and installed them over the past winter. I used a Remus Linkage Pipe and an ESE dongle and not their header. Rottweiller also supplied a ready made map for the Power Commander and Ignition Module and I added their air filter. I also changed the rear sprocket to a 40 tooth from a 38 and installed a Valentine One radar detector, the latter of which has paid for all the parts! Bottom line is the bike is running perfectly, some minor increase in fuel consumption but it is difficult to tell whether that's more related to 'unbridled wrist action' through the twisties. Basically, I have the bike set-up exactly the way I want and can see no further modifications. I'd say the heat from the motor is much less noticeable now than pre-mod and it's just as torquey as it was before the mods.

Just one comment about cam wear and electronics. I change my oil and clean my Scott's filter every 5000 km's or at the end of every season of riding, whichever comes first. Oil (and fuel) is the cheapest thing we put into these bikes so be generous and treat your motor to fresh oil...regularly!

My main gripe about KTM electronics is how tight the wiring is between connections. One would think that some bean counter determined that he could save a dollar per bike if they reduced the length of wire to a bare minimum. There is absolutely no reason for this and I see that it may become a problem as the bike ages.

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