2019 gt fuel pump warning?

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2019 gt fuel pump warning?

Post by phatdoughnut » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:31 am

I did some light reading and it seems like the filters are an issue on the 2017s? Anyone with a 2019 have issues?

Symptoms, severe bogging under load, managed to limp it home under light load. The message didn’t come on until I got home stopped turned it off and back on then it came on.

I was going to have the bike torn apart this weekend due to getting my sas deletion kit and rapid bike fuel management in.

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Re: 2019 gt fuel pump warning?

Post by GaryCulb » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:28 pm

What ever happened?? Did you replace the fuel pump??

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Re: 2019 gt fuel pump warning?

Post by phatdoughnut » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:48 pm

I don't know how familiar you are with this problem but I guess its a pretty common issue with the LC8. I put in my rapid bike fuel management, took the pump out but didn't replace anything because I didn't have the filters and i didn't want to brake anything. So I put it back together. HOLY SHIT I almost couldn't get it back together because of the oring that goes around the pump assembly shaft. TIP buy new orings anytime you take it out. I finally found another thread somewhere suggesting that.

So anyways, I filled the tank up rode it a day, no issues. Awesome I thought maybe it was bad fuel? nah it happened the next day on the way home but worse then the first time! I had to limp it on the freeway. I probably looked ridiculous to everyone passing me. It died on my street but managed to fire it back up and make it home.

Next day I dropped it off at the dealer, still under warranty. Of course they couldn't recreate it after 2 weeks so I took it home. They also mentioned that KTM might reject the claim because of the mods. They said to bring it straight there next time it happens, which is hard to do because I get off work after they close and they are closed on Mondays my day off.

During my reading I also read that the parts are hard to find and can take a while for the dealer to get. I don't trust riding it right now cause im afraid it will leave me somewhere with out service.

So like a typical hard headed man, I bought a pump and filter kit from Rottweiler with o rings. It was a little over 200 for it. I figured 200 and being able to ride is worth more to me then having my bike at the dealer for months not enjoying it.

That is, if it fixes it. :geek:

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Re: 2019 gt fuel pump warning?

Post by phatdoughnut » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:55 pm

Theres a pretty good thread on one of the other ktm forum site.

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Post by GaryCulb » Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:41 am

Got a Link???
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Re: 2019 gt fuel pump warning?

Post by phatdoughnut » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:46 pm

Longish read but fun. I also noticed that my MPG's have gone down quite a bit. I was getting 45-46 stock, then 43 with the cat delete and Austin pipe. Now its like 35-36 after the rapid bike? I think its related to the fuel problem.

https://www.ktmforums.com/threads/myste ... em.129340/

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Post by mick shere » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:40 am

good find :)

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Re: 2019 gt fuel pump warning?

Post by Aussie Dave » Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:57 pm

Hi all,

I had a thoughtie this morning and dropped by to see what's been happening on the forum (it was almost impossible for me to get on earlier in the year that was, so I've been lurking on the KTM forum).

This is more likely a common fault in parts of the globe using ethanol fuels. I have had no issue with my fuel pump or filter gauze on my 4yo 17 model gen 1 SDGT (now with 32,000kms/20,000 miles). But, here in the land down under where we can buy non ethanol polluted fuels at every service station, everywhere :D .

For riders that have no option but to use 10% ethanol blended fuels, that makes it an issue for all vehicles with the inevitable ethanol degradation to fuel pump seals and filters. Bloody E fuels....... :(

It could be a possible software corruption issue, but the fuel strainer gauzes and O rings were identified way back in 2016 as going mushy with ethanol degradation.... I thought KTM did a worldwide recall on fuel pumps for affected models inn those early days...... I remember mine was 'checked' (or replaced... ??) in january 2019 even though it was performing perfectly.

Once you get it sorted you'll gain the confidence you once had in the bike back..... and if there are any fuel outlets that offer non ethanol high octane fuel, then any extra cost is worth not having fuel pump issues on the motorways ;) ....... oh-oh the forum page is slow to review again...... maybe it'll take 20mins for me to log out again......... :roll:
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Re: 2019 gt fuel pump warning?

Post by phatdoughnut » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:02 pm

Aussie Dave wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:57 pm
Hi all,

I had a thoughtie this morning and dropped by to see what's been happening on the forum (it was almost impossible for me to get on earlier in the year that was, so I've been lurking on the KTM forum).

This is more likely a common fault in parts of the globe using ethanol fuels. I have had no issue with my fuel pump or filter gauze on my 4yo 17 model gen 1 SDGT (now with 32,000kms/20,000 miles). But, here in the land down under where we can buy non ethanol polluted fuels at every service station, everywhere :D .

For riders that have no option but to use 10% ethanol blended fuels, that makes it an issue for all vehicles with the inevitable ethanol degradation to fuel pump seals and filters. Bloody E fuels....... :(

It could be a possible software corruption issue, but the fuel strainer gauzes and O rings were identified way back in 2016 as going mushy with ethanol degradation.... I thought KTM did a worldwide recall on fuel pumps for affected models inn those early days...... I remember mine was 'checked' (or replaced... ??) in january 2019 even though it was performing perfectly.

Once you get it sorted you'll gain the confidence you once had in the bike back..... and if there are any fuel outlets that offer non ethanol high octane fuel, then any extra cost is worth not having fuel pump issues on the motorways ;) ....... oh-oh the forum page is slow to review again...... maybe it'll take 20mins for me to log out again......... :roll:

There is a gas station in town that sells non ethanol fuel. But its nearly double the cost. I bought all of the parts to replace the pump and filter this winter. But i'm still trying to decide if I should try and recreate the fault again and take it into the dealer? PArt of me wants to but then I would lose valuable riding time Once winter clears up. I don't know.

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Re: 2019 gt fuel pump warning?

Post by GaryCulb » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:07 pm

phatdoughnut,

The fuel pump repair &/ or replacenet is a no brainer. Empty the tank, one electrical plug, disconnect fuel line, remove fuel pump, disassemble, reassemble & reinstall (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulwx6khk35ndb ... N.pdf?dl=0 ; page 68 ). KTM tank does not have to be removed. Just make sure you have new fuel pump O rings & a little silicone lube when you repair: (https://www.rottweilerperformance.com/h ... ation-kit/ ,https://www.amazon.com/Napa-7651346-Sil ... 90&sr=8-33 ). Best,

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