Geez, I've had no "teething problems"......

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Geez, I've had no "teething problems"......

Post by Aussie Dave » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:54 pm

:shock: What am I doing wrong? Gas pressure venting from fuel cap......heard that many times B4 on many bikes - not an issue. My front discs are perfect - and I just ran them in by riding gently in the first 100kms or so, as requested by Mr KTM - maybe others in 'snow countries' might get a build up of salt/road grime and could clean their rotors with some Brake Cleaner (I use methylated spirit and paper towel to avoid tainting the pads).

Also, just remembered, a Caponrod guy had similar MTC/ABS issue caused by snow grit/road grime build up on the wheel sensors (it rains a lot in dull, cold, grimey England).......and another guy had pinched his sensor cables while fiddling with stuff he didn't have a clue about.......gotta be very careful with this new high tech era - I didn't take my tank off my Capo1200, and only (carefully) worked on stuff I knew about....and had zero problems with that model ;) 1290GT looks way more owner friendly......but still need a full workshop reference manual before fiddling with fancy hi-tech stuff....

I use 'Comfort' damping with 'Street' setting for a plush ride........if I want to get serious, I'll raise the damping to 'street'.......but as I'm only at 1050kms, I'm patiently getting to know my GT......plenty of time, and kms to come......and I must say - for the benefit of the tape....officer... :lol: - absolutley NO gripes with my purchase.......that's what a test ride is for....eh?... ;)

Sorry to sound tough on some 'gripes', but I've seen this happen B4 (on the Caponord forum) where very vocal members bought a new bike, then proceeded to blag loudly about faults and issues that weren't actual faults or issues. The Caponord 1200 is a dead model (discontinued only 3yrs after introduction) because it's owners forum was so negative it frightened buyers away.......1290GT won't suffer that fate......it's too bloody fantastic a bike to be killed off by a few gripes on a forum.

I'm no newbie to motorcycles either......this is new bike #17 after 600,000+ kms and 40+years of continuous riding........I've got my matching panniers fitted.....lookout, here I come, I'm on the orange bike.. :D :lol: :roll:

Ps.......I quickly discovered the recommended tyre pressures 36f & 42r are way too high (possibly dangerous) and have since found 34-35F & 36-37R (psi) cold pressures, to be very suitable for Angel GT's........live long and ride 1290GT ;)

Pps.......also, also,...... :lol: ......doing it again.....sorry.....I use Motorex Formula 4T 15w50 semi synthetic as agreed with my chief mechanic.......my GT will never see a track day or be raced, so high strength full synthetic would be overkill, and might glaze the bores in everyday street riding (=oil consumption). I plan to change the semi syn oils at the 5,000km and 10,000km marks and then the shop can put a mid strength full syn in at the 15,000km official service (they do this for 1190 ADV motors to stop them from guzzling oil).

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Post by AllanP » Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:24 am

Excellent and congratulations on the new bike :D

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Post by Aussie Dave » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:00 pm

Cheers mate......only got out today for a coffee with my older buddies.....but that's another 60kms to the Odo.

Bloody amazing traffic for a Saturday.....Aussie driver's (errr, Queenslander's anyway :oops: ) are really scary.....they seem to be trying to emulate the Russian "dash crash cam" drivers we see on television doco's.......but they either failed to 'see' me on my orange bike, or I was too damn quick for them... :lol:

Off into the hills tomorrow - that'll be a far nicer ride! Time to flex that throttle hand too.....1100kms :D

Ps Hope your dealer mechanics have checked out and re-set/resolved those few issues you were querying. Hopefully it was all just re-setting parameters or cleaning a contact.. ;)
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Post by J biker » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:55 pm

Mine running just nice too. ;)

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Post by Tancakar » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:38 am

nice to hear no problems, its nice for a change. I am assuming you are not a Sunday 'sunny day' motorcyclist so i am glad you don't have any problems.

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Post by Emmjaydee » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:08 pm

Tancakar wrote:nice to hear no problems, its nice for a change. I am assuming you are not a Sunday 'sunny day' motorcyclist so i am glad you don't have any problems.
Sunny Sunday motorcyclist has got nothing to do whether you will experience problems or not. The bike will be good, bad or indifferent whatever the time of day or weather. Good grief.

3000 miles so far, of mostly sunny weekend day riding..... and guess what no problems. But I guess in your strange world that's not real.

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Post by Aussie Dave » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:17 am

I concur Emmjaydee.......I've clocked up many kms over my (ahem) decades of riding - been rained on, hailed on, sleeted on, ohhh, you get the picture........it's all good fun......even if a little sphincter tightening while it is happening........ :lol:

Can't figure why someone would buy a $30k Aus premium bike and then proceed to denigrate the species without finding out what the base problem is......or going to another dealer/mechanic and getting it sorted.

Now that would be news, and welcome on the forum.......real solutions to whatever might afflict a brand new m/cycle......just in case anyone finds a similar problem with their GT.

I didn't lift the tank on my Caponord 1200 and had no issues.....but I do all my own work on my 2005 CBR1100XX because I was trained to work on the Honda by a bike mechanic.......now the GT looks a lot easier than the Italian 1200......but the 2 yr warranty means 'keep hands off until I know what I'm doing'...... ;)

Cheers from Australia......hope the snow melts quickly and the roads are clean for riding!

Ps I was planning on getting 5,000kms up by 1 May....but lousy drizzly humid weather and the not so great looking coolant hose has clipped my aspirations somewhat......no problem, I'll see my dealership rep next week and get the hose replaced (if necessary) and I'll do the 3000km trip in May - in whatever weather is thrown at me - with whatever kms I have onboard........ :)
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Post by Tancakar » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:27 am

Emmjaydee wrote:
Tancakar wrote:nice to hear no problems, its nice for a change. I am assuming you are not a Sunday 'sunny day' motorcyclist so i am glad you don't have any problems.
Sunny Sunday motorcyclist has got nothing to do whether you will experience problems or not. The bike will be good, bad or indifferent whatever the time of day or weather. Good grief.

3000 miles so far, of mostly sunny weekend day riding..... and guess what no problems. But I guess in your strange world that's not real.
ride it everyday in cold,sleet , road salt, rain, sun , hot weather then we will see if you have no problems or not? in 7 months I put 5000 miles so I am a real road tester for this bike, unlike sunny day riders.

if you ride the bike only in good conditions and only in one day a week or twice a month, you are no likely to get any problems soon, you hardly even using as much clutch, tyres, brakes, or chain.

I change my brake pads at 4000 miles, it depends how you ride, and besides sunny Sunday riders has more then 85% of chance to get fatal accidents, so I recommend riding bikes full season not only sunny days. That number of statistic from Police by the way.

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Post by Tancakar » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:31 am

Aussie Dave wrote:I concur Emmjaydee.......I've clocked up many kms over my (ahem) decades of riding - been rained on, hailed on, sleeted on, ohhh, you get the picture........it's all good fun......even if a little sphincter tightening while it is happening........ :lol:

Can't figure why someone would buy a $30k Aus premium bike and then proceed to denigrate the species without finding out what the base problem is......or going to another dealer/mechanic and getting it sorted.

Now that would be news, and welcome on the forum.......real solutions to whatever might afflict a brand new m/cycle......just in case anyone finds a similar problem with their GT.

I didn't lift the tank on my Caponord 1200 and had no issues.....but I do all my own work on my 2005 CBR1100XX because I was trained to work on the Honda by a bike mechanic.......now the GT looks a lot easier than the Italian 1200......but the 2 yr warranty means 'keep hands off until I know what I'm doing'...... ;)

Cheers from Australia......hope the snow melts quickly and the roads are clean for riding!

Ps I was planning on getting 5,000kms up by 1 May....but lousy drizzly humid weather and the not so great looking coolant hose has clipped my aspirations somewhat......no problem, I'll see my dealership rep next week and get the hose replaced (if necessary) and I'll do the 3000km trip in May - in whatever weather is thrown at me - with whatever kms I have onboard........ :)
UK's cold weather is slightly different then Australian cold weather my friend. I can see your point but how many times you can go to the dealer? you may as well live in the dealer.This is my second KTM didn't have as much problem from my 1190 adventure.

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Post by Tancakar » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:43 am

GT is a fantastic bike to ride , but if you say you have got no problems either you are lying or you are the luckiest person in the entire world.

so far I have some warranty jobs, some quality mistake jobs from my dealer.

at 5000 miles, my battery is dead, the had a throttle problem, throttle bodies problem, air box leak, radiator leak, coolant replace, brake pads and liquids replaced, a few times the bike didn't tart when it cold weather -5-10, some times I have MTC errors, latest my clutch is slipping, my chain is rusted although I clean and lube very regularly.

so if you saying these are normal I am not going to argue, this is my 14 th bike over the years and let me tell you I had very very expensive bikes over the years and even Ducati's didn't give me this kind of headaches.
I am using the bike very regularly in traffic, touring , some speed riding so in real world test the bike has a QUALITY problem, FINISH QUALITY problem,

I am happy with the bike, I don't mind recalls or problems but when it QUALITY problems that's putting me off big time. might soon Try Yamaha MT-10 SP crossplane engine, at least I know Japanese bikes I have over the years doesn't suffer as much. The only reason I didn't go back the Japanese they are a little dull, even Japanese v4's but people saying the Crossplane is amazing.

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Post by vet57air » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:48 pm

I am one of the "luckiest persons in the entire world"! :D

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Post by JDS1290SDr » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:48 pm

Tancakar wrote:GT is a fantastic bike to ride , but if you say you have got no problems either you are lying or you are the luckiest person in the entire world.

so far I have some warranty jobs, some quality mistake jobs from my dealer.

at 5000 miles, my battery is dead, the had a throttle problem, throttle bodies problem, air box leak, radiator leak, coolant replace, brake pads and liquids replaced, a few times the bike didn't tart when it cold weather -5-10, some times I have MTC errors, latest my clutch is slipping, my chain is rusted although I clean and lube very regularly.

so if you saying these are normal I am not going to argue, this is my 14 th bike over the years and let me tell you I had very very expensive bikes over the years and even Ducati's didn't give me this kind of headaches.
I am using the bike very regularly in traffic, touring , some speed riding so in real world test the bike has a QUALITY problem, FINISH QUALITY problem,

I am happy with the bike, I don't mind recalls or problems but when it QUALITY problems that's putting me off big time. might soon Try Yamaha MT-10 SP crossplane engine, at least I know Japanese bikes I have over the years doesn't suffer as much. The only reason I didn't go back the Japanese they are a little dull, even Japanese v4's but people saying the Crossplane is amazing.
I think some of your issues are brought on by yourself. Chain rust. I believe they are DID chains. Did KTM have DID make a specific chain for the GT?
Brakes. Brembos, why are these things rubbing slightly on a lot of the bikes. Is it the calipers, is it a rotor problem? I have read different theories, warped rotors, bad machining on the rotor mounts. I wonder if the ABS system is the culprit?
Throttle problem, I think yours had some play. Mine does too. It still works well.
From what I have read a lot of your issues started when you removed your exhaust/Cat & started tampering with different pipes & tunes.
Your battery likely died from you trying to start it at -10. If your to lean on that tune it wont start when its that cold. Crank all you want but unless you can ad more fuel at that temp it wont start. That issue could be from that initial Dyno tune you put on the bike.
Leaking air box. That is a KTM issue that they should be liable for, as well as a slipping clutch. Unless its a aftermarket lever issue?
My bike still has warranty until June. Its a 2015 SDR. If anything besides a blown motor goes wrong with it I will fix it myself. If I do blow a motor I will be busy putting all the stock stuff back on B4 I take it into the dealer.
Your in a tuff spot with this first yr bike. I hope U & Allen P get things sorted. I take interest in the GT threads because I can see myself buying one eventually.
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Post by MR C » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:08 pm

vet57air wrote:I am one of the "luckiest persons in the entire world"! :D
Me too [FACE WITH STUCK-OUT TONGUE AND WINKING EYE]

But I do feel Tancakar's pain if he has issues because I have been there but I do feel some maybe brought on from messing and than the bike running like a bag ov shite.

Yeah I ride in spring/summer as I have a cage with heated seats [WINKING FACE] but I had done 5k in 4 months .

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Post by AllanP » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:32 am

My bike is currently in the dealers having some warranty work done and while it's there I decided to look on the KTM website to see if there were any recalls. I entered the VIN from my 2016 SD-GT and discovered that there is a recall to have a fuel line replaced which according to the recall notice is hazardous and could result in a fire. I contacted the dealer and sent him a scan of the recall notice but was told there are no outstanding recalls on my bike. Obviously something wrong somewhere!

The dealer looked again and now agrees that there is a recall, he's ordered the parts but has not been released yet by KTM to do the recall work. KTM is apparently dragging their feet to approve the replacement of a fuel line that they themselves state is potentially dangerous and notified me about through the Safety Recall part of their web site. So bizarre I can hardly believe it.

The VIN look-up web page can be found here: http://www.ktm.com/us/service/safety/

The link is to the 2016 page but you can change this to another year. Has anyone else checked the web site for recalls on their bikes?

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Post by Aussie Dave » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:24 am

G'day Allan, just had that fuel line changed on my 2017 GT.. 8-)

It's not a big issue.....but.....as the top dog in the mechanics play pit explained.....the 'rubber' tubing in the tight 'Z' bends has separated on some GT's and the recall was issued to clear away the defective batch from existing bikes.

The operation took only the time it takes to lift the tank and get at the hose. I left my GT with the guys and bummed a lift with my degenerate desperado deplorable Ducati mates for our usual Saturday morning coffee and when I came back it was all done....no fuss....no problem....no cost.

Cheers mate.......

Ps.....but I have to check with the KTM specialist next week when he comes back to work as I think my lower coolant hose is not up to standard........it also is probably ok....but it looks like a warranty replacement job to me......... ;)
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Post by Aussie Dave » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:52 am

Oh-oh.......just realised my last post could possibly be mis-read as complaining about teething problems.. :roll:

Just to make certain.....the GT is fine......I just spotted a hose (posted a pic on here somewhere) that was damaged in production and missed in assembly......only an inconvenience, not a reliability issue, as the GT is still operational though the bloody weathergods are playing havoc with this new bike owners little plans for his weekends.......I want sunny days, not too hot thankyu, with perfect road surfaces and no traffic...there, that's not too much to expect isit?

Now, if only my fender extender and Alu rack and Acerbis dual road handguards had arrived today, I could be busily fitting all the stuff I want on the GT to turn it into a mega mile munching all weather touring missile for me, myself and the other bloke 'I'.....

I have no need to change anything KTM engineers have designed as 150 rwHp is heaps and the thing runs perfect and goes hard......the fuel line was not an issue.....nice of KTM to call it in for the change before any potential mishap (if ever). That's a good thing....unlike the bad old days with Jap/Euro bike dealers denying any faults.

Gotta say in closing (as this debate is becoming tedious.....just like on the Caponord whingers forum) that I'd find it a laugh if there were any Ducati owners who could honestly admit they had a dream run with their new bikes......not even a little niggle?.......come on.......be honest.....they are just machines assembled by humans and humans make mistakes.......that's life......I'll still be reporting what happens with my GT in a factual manner...cheers from the not so dry, cyclone/what do you call it....Hurricane pending Queensland Australia. :P
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Post by MR C » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:11 am

The fuel tank should not have to be lifted to replace the fuel line recall, the hose that needs replacing is at the bottom of the tank on the left side, it's about 2.5" long (see picture) you turn the petrol tap off and remove said Hose and snap connector, 20 mins max . (Ktm haven given 25mins to do the job)

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Post by Aussie Dave » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:50 am

Cheers Mr C.......I didn't ask and assumed the tank had to come off - learn something new every day eh!......I haven't had the time to look closely at the GT unlike all prev new bikes.......been to busy riding the thing - but it does look like it has been screwed together well and is a strong design - I'm very impressed with the overall quality and engineering (overlooking the coolant hose slip up..... :lol: ).

Got out today for a 400km ride in the country (before that Cat4 cyclone up north becomes a nasty Cat5 and sends more rain down the coast towards me) - got rained on, road spray, but the GT didn't put a foot wrong - no slips/slides, all easily managed.......don't know if that was down to my good habits or the tech onboard....anyway, I'm impressed - 1200 miles in UK speak - :D
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Post by DaveNZ » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:30 pm

Aussie Dave wrote:Oh-oh.......just realised my last post could possibly be mis-read as complaining about teething problems.. :roll:

Just to make certain.....the GT is fine......I just spotted a hose (posted a pic on here somewhere) that was damaged in production and missed in assembly......only an inconvenience, not a reliability issue, as the GT is still operational though the bloody weathergods are playing havoc with this new bike owners little plans for his weekends.......I want sunny days, not too hot thankyu, with perfect road surfaces and no traffic...there, that's not too much to expect isit?

Now, if only my fender extender and Alu rack and Acerbis dual road handguards had arrived today, I could be busily fitting all the stuff I want on the GT to turn it into a mega mile munching all weather touring missile for me, myself and the other bloke 'I'.....

I have no need to change anything KTM engineers have designed as 150 rwHp is heaps and the thing runs perfect and goes hard......the fuel line was not an issue.....nice of KTM to call it in for the change before any potential mishap (if ever). That's a good thing....unlike the bad old days with Jap/Euro bike dealers denying any faults.

Gotta say in closing (as this debate is becoming tedious.....just like on the Caponord whingers forum) that I'd find it a laugh if there were any Ducati owners who could honestly admit they had a dream run with their new bikes......not even a little niggle?.......come on.......be honest.....they are just machines assembled by humans and humans make mistakes.......that's life......I'll still be reporting what happens with my GT in a factual manner...cheers from the not so dry, cyclone/what do you call it....Hurricane pending Queensland Australia. :P
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Post by Aussie Dave » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:59 am

Yeah, ok, ok, looking back after 2 months and 3500kms, I guess I'd have to admit to some minor toothaches....

Nothing you'd have a right to call 'reliability' issues......just back to the workshop for 'x' and away again things.

So all I've had was a coolant hose that looked dodgy - it was replaced by KTM and I looked at the old hose and it was ok, so we were just in the 'better to be safe category' rather than in a re-call or urgent category.

The KTM recall on the fuel tank Z hose was just a normal safety precaution and I've had that type of thing on other brands......just part of life......nice of them to bite the bullet and voluntarily recall before anything goes wrong ;)

Recently my fork seals have become persistent weeper's, but I'll try the Seal Mate cleaner/adjuster tool in case it's just a bit of grit in the seal tracks.......it's not a proper leak or what you'd call a blown seal, but it is more than the usual bit of oil and dust on a fork tube.....

So, if that's teething problem's then I'm ok with that.......the bike starts, goes, handles, stops, and nothing falls off (including me)........and I haven't fully checked it over with spanner in one hand, and Loctite in the other, been too busy riding it...... :lol:

Now to fit the last item I ordered to complete the GT.....the front fender extender... :D (although, I'm most likely going to buy a 40T rear sprog in a few kms.....it's geared well, but, you know, gotta be just right eh?). :lol:

All in all, I'm super happy with the purchase......the other bike (Blackbird 1100xx) was ok but had to have $2500.00Aus worth of Ohlins shockie & fork springs to make it brilliant at 2up touring........this Kat is already there.....just add some bling, and go ride it.. :D
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