Difficulty finding neutral

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Difficulty finding neutral

Post by RDKLL » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:11 pm

I have noticed that several times when going from 1st to N, it goes to 2nd and often times when pressed it goes back to 1st...seems to take a concentrated effort to get into 1st.
Anyone else have this occur?

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by Emmjaydee » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:12 pm

Yes, but it gets easier, as you get used to it and it gets run in

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by DaveNZ » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:27 am

Emmjaydee wrote:Yes, but it gets easier, as you get used to it and it gets run in
THIS, as the milage racks up, and the gear box and clutch bed in, it gets easier. Modern sporty bikes with their sports gear boxes tend to be more difficult to find neutral, something todo with the way the gears are cut, Nothing worse when you take off from the lights and get a false neutral, with 8000 revs. :o
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by AllanP » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:10 am

I had the same problem a first. I have 2,400kms/1,450 miles on mine now and it rarely happens. Part is probably me unconsciously developing better technique as the miles go by, and the rest is the gear box bedding in.

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by RDKLL » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:00 pm

I have a quick update about this issue. Still difficult with nearly 2400 miles on the clock.

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Re: RE: Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by Gary » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:05 am

RDKLL wrote:I have a quick update about this issue. Still difficult with nearly 2400 miles on the clock.
Did you get your clutch oil jet cleaned during the first service?

Most users report that it's clogged during break in. The hole is pretty small, about 0.3mm if I'm not mistaken...

It was easier to find neutral after I got it cleaned.

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by Aussie Dave » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:14 am

Hi all, just browsing and had a thought..... :roll: ....... I tend to pull the clutch in early as I approach a stop (eg traffic light etc) and with the motor just making Ducati like idling sounds I easily and consistently get neutral before I put my foot down.

If I try to get neutral when stopped it often goes to 2nd, then back to 1st.......so I think you'll solve this problem by just changing your existing style slightly and grab the clutch as you are still rolling to a stop.

Cheers....... :)
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by steved57 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:49 pm

Check that the linkage (adjustable turnbuckle) is not in a bind

I adjusted mine to adjust the shift lever and when I first rode off shifting was very notchy so I loosened lock nuts and re-tightened making sure turnbuckle swiveled on each end and that fixed it
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by marc99 » Mon May 01, 2017 9:57 pm

There is a Factory Pro Shift kit to crispen up shifting and find N easier.

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by Aussie Dave » Tue May 02, 2017 8:42 am

Mine's a lot easier to find 'N' with 5000kms on the Odo.....but it is still dead simple to get neutral on the last of the roll to a stop...... :) Also, if I rock the bike slightly fore/aft it will slip into neutral (if it was playing difficult ). I found with my last bike - Caponord 1200 - that if you have everything adjusted 'just right' and lubricated nicely, that the bike never declined what ever I asked it to do... ;)
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by DaveNZ » Tue May 02, 2017 9:08 am

Aussie Dave wrote:Mine's a lot easier to find 'N' with 5000kms on the Odo.....but it is still dead simple to get neutral on the last of the roll to a stop...... :) Also, if I rock the bike slightly fore/aft it will slip into neutral (if it was playing difficult ). I found with my last bike - Caponord 1200 - that if you have everything adjusted 'just right' and lubricated nicely, that the bike never declined what ever I asked it to do... ;)
You are talking about your last bike here Dave, or your wife?....lubricated nicely....never declined what ever i asked :o
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by Aussie Dave » Tue May 02, 2017 9:24 am

Dirty minds...... :lol: :lol: :twisted: ..... 8-)
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by Tancakar » Thu May 11, 2017 2:51 pm

this is the only problem never happen to me , may be the good oil i dont know ? may be the nicely adjusted bleed clutch hydrolic ?

i dont know never have a false neutral or any other problem with gears.

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by Sonic » Mon May 29, 2017 1:27 am

Clutch needs bleeding. I have a 2016 model with 6000mls from new, it was perfect when I bought it and gradually got worse over the mileage. Had it serviced recently and complain about the clutch, they bled it and it's now perfect again.
It seems as though KTM clutch's let a little air in.

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by DaveNZ » Mon May 29, 2017 9:55 pm

They make some great stuff for the KTMs Rottweiler do, i fitted their stage 2 Kit, and the O2 sensor removal plugs, both made a great improvement to the running of the GT.
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by Aussie Dave » Wed May 31, 2017 8:17 am

Sonic wrote:Clutch needs bleeding. I have a 2016 model with 6000mls from new, it was perfect when I bought it and gradually got worse over the mileage. Had it serviced recently and complain about the clutch, they bled it and it's now perfect again.
It seems as though KTM clutch's let a little air in.
Good point! If the clutch fluid has gone off, or something hasn't been nipped up properly and has let air in, finding neutral will be a chore.

Interestingly, my clutch fluid has slowly darkened over 6000kms, but at least it hasn't gone charcoal black like the Caponord 1200 clutch fluid :lol: Must be a Euro-bike thing......Brembo etc etc ......Jap brake fluids stay clean for 12-24months and upwards of 24,000kms before needing a change :lol:

Still, GT puts a huge smile on mine when I go for a ride......I've got a bottle of Motul hydraulic fluid on the shelf waiting to try when it's time to change the clutch fluid..... ;)
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by Heeno » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:14 am

Indeed, the lines need to be bleed out. I was having the exact same problem. Air got into the line. Works perfect, neutral is a breeze, shifting silky smooth.

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral

Post by Heeno » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:15 am

Indeed, the lines need to be bleed out. I was having the exact same problem. Air got into the line. Works perfect, neutral is a breeze, shifting silky smooth.

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