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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by dasjefe » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:06 pm

I've got a 2017 that has the same issue... both forks are weeping oil. I get rings on both forks after just about every ride. I'm working on getting the bike scheduled for service. Dealer sent me to KTM and KTM sent me back to the dealer. They want to look at the bike before any decision is made about warranty coverage. Bike with 2.5k miles shouldn't leak forking fork oil.

Allan, after your service do your forks still continue to weep?

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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by AllanP » Fri May 18, 2018 1:54 am

Dasjefe: Sorry for the slow response about the fork oil seals. The oil weep has disappeared but the bike hasn't been ridden much in the last few months and is parked in the corner of my garage with about 9500 miles on it. After all the issues over the first year of ownership I've just lost interest in it. Its running well now however, so I think I can sell it with a clear conscience. :D

I bought a Street Triple 765RS in March and have been riding track days only since then. I'm not done with road riding however, and will be renting a bike in Northern Ireland with a friend in August, watching the Ulster GP and doing a tour around Scotland ...... just not on the SD-GT this time.

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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by dasjefe » Fri May 18, 2018 4:29 pm

Thanks for the response. I was basically told my fork seals aren't bad enough to be covered - if I wanted a fix KTM would pay for the parts but I'd be stuck with the labor. This comes to about 230 bucks. I will probably just let it weep for a while... I can live with it unless it gets worse. Good luck if you decide to sell. I have not had any big problems, but I can understand your motivations.

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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by DaveNZ » Fri May 18, 2018 10:48 pm

dasjefe wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 4:29 pm
Thanks for the response. I was basically told my fork seals aren't bad enough to be covered - if I wanted a fix KTM would pay for the parts but I'd be stuck with the labor. This comes to about 230 bucks. I will probably just let it weep for a while... I can live with it unless it gets worse. Good luck if you decide to sell. I have not had any big problems, but I can understand your motivations.
Mine weeped, well more like a smear that the dust stuck to, for about 3-5000Kms, but for the last 20,000Kms they have been bone dry, i think the seals take along time to bed in.
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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by Rock » Sat May 19, 2018 11:46 pm

my dampening error message started flashing Friday night on the way home. When I got home I noticed the weeping on both forks similar to the pics here. Wiped it off and didn't see anymore but havne't had a chance to ride the bike since do to the never ending rain.
Not sure if having that bit of ooze and the light going on have anything to do with each other but something is surely wrong. THe bike was barely 6 days old and this crap happens.

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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by DaveNZ » Sun May 20, 2018 1:41 am

Rock wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 11:46 pm
my dampening error message started flashing Friday night on the way home. When I got home I noticed the weeping on both forks similar to the pics here. Wiped it off and didn't see anymore but havne't had a chance to ride the bike since do to the never ending rain.
Not sure if having that bit of ooze and the light going on have anything to do with each other but something is surely wrong. THe bike was barely 6 days old and this crap happens.
Ive only had the DES fault come up once, it was after a 220Km ride over fast windy and bumpy roads while being chased by 2 1290Rs, it occurred when we stopped for gas next to our accommodation, i parked it up for the night and in the morning it was gone, and never returned since.
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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by Rock » Sun May 20, 2018 4:47 am

DaveNZ wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 1:41 am
Ive only had the DES fault come up once, it was after a 220Km ride over fast windy and bumpy roads while being chased by 2 1290Rs, it occurred when we stopped for gas next to our accommodation, i parked it up for the night and in the morning it was gone, and never returned since.
Interesting I was hitting some nasty bumps when it came on. I wasn't being chased though :)
I'll see what tomorrow brings.

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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by DaveNZ » Sun May 20, 2018 6:50 am

Rock wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 4:47 am
DaveNZ wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 1:41 am
Ive only had the DES fault come up once, it was after a 220Km ride over fast windy and bumpy roads while being chased by 2 1290Rs, it occurred when we stopped for gas next to our accommodation, i parked it up for the night and in the morning it was gone, and never returned since.
Interesting I was hitting some nasty bumps when it came on. I wasn't being chased though :)
I'll see what tomorrow brings.
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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by reciprocation23 » Wed May 30, 2018 11:14 pm

Hey guys, John P here from NY USA, I am a proud owner of a 2016 superduke GT. I have to say this is the best bike I've ever owned but I'm experiencing the same issue. Since 300 miles through my first service, they said it was normal too. I'm now at 2500 miles, and this Fork is still weeping. I asked the dealer if they had removed the dust covers and cleaned them and they said no.

They had said it wasn't necessary. Then they said to change the fork seal I had to pay for the parts. I left rather angry and dropped a few four letter words out the door. I paid $21,000 for this motorcycle, I expected better service. I'm going to try and remove the dust covers myself and clean them. I read that you should use motorex Joker 440 lubricant on them. Has anyone heard this? More importantly has anyone resolve this issue? Any feedback would be great from you guys I love this forum. ImageImage

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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by dasjefe » Thu May 31, 2018 12:00 am

The manual specifies using that Joker lubricant and pulling down the dust boot and cleaning/lubing. I have tried this and it didn't really help my weeping forks. If you clean the oil on the forks off, sit on the bike and then grab the handle bars (and front brake lol) and bounce the front end up and down 10x or so and you're still seeing some juice or noticeable marks on the forks then your forks are still leaking/weeping. You can clean under the fork seals as well using a piece of 35mm film or a forkmate cleaner tool - you will lose a bit of oil doing this - and it may help. However, cleaning under the fork seals didn't do shit for me. I really think there's some kind of design or manufacturing defect with these forks. Maybe a bushing is too big or something was not assembled correctly in the forktory.

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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by reciprocation23 » Thu May 31, 2018 2:09 am

Dasjefe, that makes sense, regarding some defect. All my Japanese bikes of the past didn't seem to have this issue (well, maybe many many miles and wheelies later that is) but this is a new bike. I'll try that, but I think I'm going to shoot an email to KTM too, about this issue. I also had a preload adjustment light come on, and they "reconfigured" aka flashed the fault. I love this suspension setup (although a bit rough in sport On the street as to be expected). I'll let you know how I make out. I hope I didn't jump the gun buying a '16 gt.

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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by DaveNZ » Thu May 31, 2018 4:25 am

reciprocation23 wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 2:09 am
Dasjefe, that makes sense, regarding some defect. All my Japanese bikes of the past didn't seem to have this issue (well, maybe many many miles and wheelies later that is) but this is a new bike. I'll try that, but I think I'm going to shoot an email to KTM too, about this issue. I also had a preload adjustment light come on, and they "reconfigured" aka flashed the fault. I love this suspension setup (although a bit rough in sport On the street as to be expected). I'll let you know how I make out. I hope I didn't jump the gun buying a '16 gt.

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I think the GT has very stiff fork seals, as they all seem to leave a smear for a few 1000Kms or miles, i didn't see anything to worry about in your fork photo, if they start to puddle at the base of the fork then id worry. mine took at least 5-6000 Kms before being dry.
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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by Rock » Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:48 am

DaveNZ wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 4:25 am


I think the GT has very stiff fork seals, as they all seem to leave a smear for a few 1000Kms or miles, i didn't see anything to worry about in your fork photo, if they start to puddle at the base of the fork then id worry. mine took at least 5-6000 Kms before being dry.
This is very true Dave. That's the reason you have to be careful washing the bike and leaving soap residue and such. There's not much room for extraneous matter on these forks.

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Re: Fork seal gone

Post by reciprocation23 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:39 pm

Cheap, I have washed it several times. I rinsed real well and used a micro fiber towel to wipe dry... I don't think that could be it. I'm going to ride it and see if it gets worse or goes away at this point...

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