New Superduke GT owner experiences.

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by Aussie Dave » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:36 pm

G'day from Brisbane, Aus.. ;)

Only clocked 1100kms (what's that in US speak....approx 690miles).....but I've noticed my suspension has eased heaps and I'm happy to ride our rough roads (we call them highways/motorways..... :lol: ) using comfort and street settings. The WP dynamic suspension is nowhere near the sophistication of the Aprilia stuff on the Caponord, but it is still very good and I'm fine with it - when I want sporty playtime I'll hit the menu and dial in some street or sport..... 8-)

The screen is great - I mostly leave it down fully.....gives a cooling non turbulent sports bike breeze for our disgusting hot autumn weather.....phew, I'll be glad when we clear this extended heat wave......(even the MS1200's I have ridden have awful oem screens.....very turbulent/noisy - gold star to KTM from me......).

The previous bike (my Caponord 1200) had a shocker of an OEM screen - it roared with blistering turbulence, which I fixed by installing an MRA Vario Touring screen.......I'd like another MRA screen (tinted of course) for the 1290, but I haven't had time to go looking yet - those little aerospoilers really work and look trick.

Anyway, not enough Km's up yet to pretend to be an expert on GT's, so I'm revelling in the light weight, great power, good ergo's......blah blah blah...you know the rest... :D

Absolutely no issues or gripes from me........KTM has my number :D

Yikes......it's 10.30pm already......gotta get up early.....breakfast ride with Ducati mates......gotta show em what a bit of class looks like... ;)
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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by Aussie Dave » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:31 am

Me again.....nice ride in cool morning over the "mountains"......1450kms and motor pulling hard now. getting over 18k/Ltr on freeway cruising (and I used full cruise control today.....bloody brilliant system...I love the resume function.. :D ).

GT has used 'ZERO' oil......now that's what I call "acceptable" oil consumption! (my 2005 CBR1100XX also uses zero oil and it has 130,000kms on the clock.....). My very much loved Caponord 1200 used 100cc/1000kms and nothing I tried made any difference......must be an Italian bike thing :lol: .

Cheers from Australia.
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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by J biker » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:49 pm

1st extended ride on the new bike today. Ready to book in for its first service and then some real fun!

So far so good. Around 170 miles to warning light for fuel, then manage to get around 19-20litres in. Will drop when used harder, but get better as engine loosens up....
At edge of tyre already, not pushing the bike yet as running and roads not in great condition.
I'm hoping the front suspension does soften up a bit as components bed in. Seems a bit harsh to me. Comfort just seems to pogo. Mid setting seems good(ish) Sport just seems too hard for the state of our roads IMO. Probably great on a track though.
Looking forward to getting back onboard.

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New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by MR C » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:43 pm

@J biker ask the dealer to adjust the pre-load on the front when you have it serviced.

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by DaveNZ » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:02 am

MR C wrote:@J biker ask the dealer to adjust the pre-load on the front when you have it serviced.
Apparently they can adjust the the rates for each mode of suspension setting, but the main culprit that makes the suspension too hard or too soft is the Comp and Reb, Preload with a fixed rate spring, (if the spring is the correct weight for you and the bike) won't make suspension any harder or softer through its compression stroke, so adding or removing preload won't make it softer or harder. preload is more to set rider sag height and bike geometry. A rising rate spring will effect the firmness of a ride with more preload added, but i suspect the GT has a fixed rate spring like the 1290R. I find the Touring suspension setting far too soft, theres just not enough reb dampning, and it feels like a pogo, Street mode is a good compromise, but the bike definatelty handles best in sport mode. I personally wouldn't want the suspension any softer, i think theres enough settings to find a good compromise, like Solo riding ie -rider with gear suits me, Ive been through most of the suspension settings, and measured the the rider sag in each, to see which one suits my preferred sag i.e. 40mmF, 35mmR for sporty riding. The only poor setting I've come across is the lack of rebound dampening in Touring mode, caning this bike in Touring mode will wreak your rear tire. Im generally very happy with all the other settings, and theres something for everyone.
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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by Aussie Dave » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:32 am

Also also.......keep in mind the front has (from memory...) 125mm travel and the rear 150mm or so, and naturally that is going to give a 'pogo' feel in comfort-street setting. I noticed it but have gotten used to it and with our lumps and bumps called roads, I'm ok with the floaty soft setting. When I converted my trusty Blackbird to solo rego, I wound most of the compression damping out of the Ohlins rear and it feels fine on that weight of road bike. The GT is very light in comparison, and has jumped away on some of our unfriendly lumpy corners, so I just expect some fun at this stage, but will try more settings soon enough.

Ps Just got a call from the dealer......have to drop back in to let them deal with a fuel line re-call. :o Better to be safe than sorry with a fuel line......so Saturday it is.......make mine a cappuccino thanks....... :lol:

Pps The front end on mine has softened a lot (1450kms......errr, clickity click....906 miles) so that may be all you need to do (more miles=more smiles?)......cheers ;)
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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by Emmjaydee » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:51 am

Rear sag only is dealer adjustable, by computer. + to - 5mm. Nothing available on front.

Suspension eases with miles.

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by J biker » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:06 pm

:roll:

Sounds good.

Next to try is dropping tyre pressures a bit. Then trying different tyres. Just my preference to have a compliant front end as our roads are way to bumpy!

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by MR C » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:59 pm

J biker wrote::roll:

Sounds good.

Next to try is dropping tyre pressures a bit. Then trying different tyres. Just my preference to have a compliant front end as our roads are way to bumpy!
I run 34 front and I'm sure the carbon rims help float over the imperfections, one thing is for sure after 5k my suspension has eased off and feels quite lush.

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by MR C » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:28 am

Emmjaydee wrote:Rear sag only is dealer adjustable, by computer. + to - 5mm. Nothing available on front.

Suspension eases with miles.
That's what my dealer had confirmed when it went in for its run in service, however that was nearly 1 year ago and some guy on the AD forum said Ktm can now adjust the front pre-load and had his done !

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by AllanP » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:30 pm

MR C wrote:
J biker wrote::roll:

Sounds good.

Next to try is dropping tyre pressures a bit. Then trying different tyres. Just my preference to have a compliant front end as our roads are way to bumpy!
I run 34 front and I'm sure the carbon rims help float over the imperfections, one thing is for sure after 5k my suspension has eased off and feels quite lush.
I don't think I'm a candidate to buy carbon fiber wheels but its and interesting upgrade and I'd be really interested to hear about their characteristics compared with the standard alloy wheels?

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by Emmjaydee » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:35 pm

That's what my dealer had confirmed when it went in for its run in service, however that was nearly 1 year ago and some guy on the AD forum said Ktm can now adjust the front pre-load and had his done !
OK that's promising then as would appreciate 5mm more sag at the front. Am back in on Saturday for the recall on the fuel line thing

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by DaveNZ » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:09 am

Emmjaydee wrote:
That's what my dealer had confirmed when it went in for its run in service, however that was nearly 1 year ago and some guy on the AD forum said Ktm can now adjust the front pre-load and had his done !
OK that's promising then as would appreciate 5mm more sag at the front. Am back in on Saturday for the recall on the fuel line thing
Emmjaydee, im interested in knowing do you want more front sag, i.e. reducing preload, i don't know how much you weigh, but I'm curious if you have measured the sag in each of the differing modes. For me, a good base sag measurement in the forks, say in street mode, one person would be 40mm, i would also like 35-38mm sag for one person in sport mode. Ive measured my sag rates in most of the modes. Heres some measurements. Street mode 1 person 38mmF-45mmR. (I'm happy with the forks sag, its in the ball park,but id prefer 35-40mm rear sag) I'm going to ask at next service if they could reduce the rear sag by 5mm. I didn't measure Touring mode, as i doubt ill ever use that mode, I had a similar issue with my 1290R, i had to wind up the rear preload 2 full turns to get 35mm sag.I weigh around 78Kg. Oh PS, free sag in the rear was 28mm, so this also could be reduced slightly, but its close, it looks like the factory suspension settings are set for a rider around 80-85Kg.
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New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by MR C » Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:16 am

I put pen to paper after 500 miles to see what figures I had .

So I'm 13 stone .

Started bike and left to run with suspension in comfort.

Front:
Free sag 26mm
Rider sag 42mm

Rear:
Free sag 19mm
Rider sag 47mm

Reading up the front rider sag should be within 37-41

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by Aussie Dave » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:08 pm

I was sitting in the cool breeze on a sweltering afternoon (after work) flicking through the owners manual again.......I've read all this fortnight's bike mags twice......and I spotted in the Tech Data (23) section - rear sag is spec'd as 24mm static......no spec for front except that it runs SAE4 weight oil.....wouldn't want to put 15wt in eh?.. :lol: .

Anyway, at my mileage (1450km/906smiles) it's way too soon to be plotting major changes as it may take up to 5,000kms for the suspension to fully settle in. I've already noticed significant softening of the front - it's pretty good for a sports bike - I've never forgotten a ride on an RC8........got blurred vision, with teeth chatter as I tried to 'see' where I was going on that fekin thing......sure was glad to hand that back to it's owner!

Got the fuel line recall happening on Saturday, hopefully no storms on Sunday, so I can go for a ride and show the orange bike to my BMW friends....... ;)
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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by Tancakar » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:12 pm

clocked around 5000 miles, had nothing but reliability and quality issues. I dont want to write here all that issues but very disappointed. I paid £17.750.00 for this bike and the quality issues are the biggest problem for me.

The most simple are how can heated hand grips (gripping parts) were off to nothing, and how can my battery is dead even though I used the bike every day.

Touring bike but the fuel gauge isn't working correctly. I am just afraid to ask how much i will get for PX :) lol 12 K ? may be

anyway, just an honest review. Such a great bike and fun to ride with perfect fueling but silly little problems like leaking forks.

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by OldGit60 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:21 pm

Good afternoon all!

I see a lot of the same old problems still coming up on the ride/handling issues. Should we really be looking at carbon fibre wheels, different tyres etc on a premium priced bike like the GT??

I took an Adventure S out for a long test ride (100 miles plus) on the same roads that the GT tries to kill me on at the same sort of pace. The S held its line, shrugged off the undulations, pot holes and various road kills that pass for Oxford/Gloucestershire roads. The quickshift worked perfectly - have turned it off on the GT, and I spent most of the time grinning like a fool. I had begun to doubt myself and was starting to make excuses for the GT's shortcomings, the S has renewed my faith!

The only problem is the £3000 hit I would have to take to part ex so will be keeping the GT for now, but will be changing as soon as finances permit. In the meantime I'm having more fun on my old 600 hornet!

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by OldGit60 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:23 pm

I should add the Adventure S rode smoothly and comfortably. I stayed in the seat the whole time, something that doesn't happen on the GT!

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by veloflyer » Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:33 pm

I bought my 2016 Super Duke GT in April and have put 12,000 miles on it, mostly on a 3 week trip. Here are my observations.

The selling dealer never deactivated the transport lock, so I was stranded on my way home from NY to PA. That cost me a day.

Large, uneven gap between key cylinder surround and fuel tank that I didn't notice until after purchase. Service shop took a picture and notified KTM but no response.

Fuel capacity is not 6.1 gal as advertised but 5.7 gal. How do I know this? The bike stranded me again, luckily not far from a gas station.

The fuel range calculator is a joke. It shows over 400 miles at fill-up and then drops from 70 miles to 30 miles to 0 miles in about 15 miles. Luckily, fuel MPG calculation seems accurate.

About 4000 miles into my trip, I lost gear indicator, traction control, cruise control and bike went into limp mode. I limped to a shop where it was discovered that the kickstand/ gear sensor wire routing was too close to the countershaft sprocket and cut through the wires. They were able to get the bike running but I was stuck with no cruise control and 7,000 mile to go to home.

The kickstand tang that was replaced under recall snapped.

The hydraulic clutch is not self adjusting so there's always noticeable drag even when the lever is fully to the bar. This makes it nearly impossible to find neutral.

One or both of my front rotors have warped and pulse through the lever. It's definitely not from overuse as the bike has lots of engine drag and almost all miles have been on the highway.

My riding partner had a new Super Adventure. His fuel gauge failed and both fork seals leaked.

The motor and suspension are pretty impressive, I'll admit, but the overall experience is pretty poor.

I paid a premium price for what I thought was a premium brand motorcycle. I've never had problems like this in nearly 80,000 miles on Ducatis and MVs.

I'll be selling the KTM and looking elsewhere for my next bike. Better luck to the rest of you.

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Re: New Superduke GT owner experiences.

Post by DaveNZ » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:05 am

Ive travelled 72,000Ks on my Multistrada, and its been great, trouble free, theres been the few recalls done. and I've travelled 9,000Ks so far on my 1290GT, no problems so far, they reset the parameters for the quick shifter, and moved the horn, and fitted a new spike on the stand spur, very minor. I'm expecting many more trouble free Ks, just like on my ex 1290R.
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