'17 Bag Won't Come Off

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'17 Bag Won't Come Off

Post by mcracr » Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:48 pm

Anyone else have a problem getting a saddle bag off the bike? After working fine since I bought it, I now can't get the right side bag off the bike. (2017 SDGT bought in Dec 2017)

After poking around and shining a light behind the handle mechanism, I found the problem - the long metal pin that connects across the back of the handle and activates the latch mechanism has slipped out one side and won't allow the hook to fully disengage from the slot under the rear seat. I can't get it to slide back in, no matter how much I try to wedge something on the end or lift the handle to get it to slide in.

This might also be part of the problem why the cover gaps in the front - the left side bag still shuts tightly and comes off the bike easily.

Not happy about this, as I'm finally planning some good trips in the NE USA this summer. I'd like to see KTM replace the bag for no charge, as this is no fault of mine. Thoughts?

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Re: '17 Bag Won't Come Off

Post by Aussie Dave » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:31 am

G'day mcracr.

I also have a 17SDGT, but have never had any issue with my side cases...... BTW, they are made by 'SHAD' for KTM. That's why they are very light weight compared to say the cases made for Ducati MS1260 by Givi.

Can your dealership guys sort the issue out (is the bike still new/within warranty?) - I had an Aprilia before the KTM and it's side cases were stupid hard to latch on until I read a post on a forum, and adjusted it's latches.

I doubt dealerships do much pre-delivery checking, which is a shame as it reflects back on the brand.

I thought I read recently on another forum how an owner fixed his KTM case latches ..... one had shifted or was too tight or something........ but they are a complex design..... very light but very fiddly if anything goes wrong.

Try on the 'KTM forum' if no one has a solution here.

There is a workshop manual on the KTM forum - it's in the Super Duke forum, under "treasure chest/trove of links" ....... maybe it gives enough detail to allow you to fix it and adjust it properly.

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Re: '17 Bag Won't Come Off

Post by DaveW » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:14 am

Hi mcracr.

There are forums were people have issues with their cases.
Something about a adjustment screw that helps the sliders.
Ive always sprayed a bit of CRC to help lube the chanels
My bags have never closed properly when ive to too much gear stuffed in But, dont leak.
well.... that's a lie! One did slightly in torentual west coast rain.which sat in the bottom and clothes were dry in the KTM bags

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Re: '17 Bag Won't Come Off

Post by mcracr » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:28 pm

Feeling a little proud today - just looked at how to get to the mechanism and decided to take off the lid component to see where I could get. Seven T20 torx screws later and I had the lid and case lip off, directly exposed to the hooks and the rod that slid out! Pushed it back in, verified the hooks moved like they're supposed to move, slipped the case lip/ lid back on and tightened everything up, and voila - it works! Case goes on and off properly.

Still have a pretty good gap at the leading point of the case. Not sure if the hook closes in tight enough, or it's just a poor design that loosens up over time. I can definitely see into a gap all the way to the inner seal, so not sure it will be good in the rain. Also a bit nervous about running over the ton and blowing the bag open/ off the bike... I'll try to search for how to adjust the hook to enable a tighter fit.

Other option I was considering was either getting a buckle at the point, or just doing a simple velcro across it to keep the gap closed. Thoughts?

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Re: '17 Bag Won't Come Off

Post by Aussie Dave » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:57 pm

Hi mcracr,

My case lids close well, though I had considered adding extra latches like my Ducati MS1200S touring mates factory cases.

But that's as far as I got....... thought about it but didn't go out and look for a decent latch that might look nice.....

I just make sure the lid holds only 1 sneaker each side and I pack all my clothes into the base section so there is no pressure on the lid, and it closes well.

Remember, these are cases made for KTM by 'SHAD'..... so they are much lighter than the robust Givi brand used by Ducati, but you are right in that they have a stupid shaped, triangular lid, instead of a more traditional
suitcase shape....... KTM's idea of an executive express with just a toothbrush and spare undies in the cases :roll: .

I have SW Motech quick release racks on my 17GT, so I can run with my Givi E41 (40Ltr cases) if I'm on an extended tour and need a lot of touristy clothing (we often shack up in 5star digs and visit flashy joints for dinner etc so pack respectable jeans and shirts and a windproof jacket). If I was just camping or mile munching I'd travel a lot lighter, but we like our bit of luxo accom when it's planned into the trip.

Not really an option once you've shelled out for the KTM cases - I should have decided on them before I ordered the KTM cases..... but at least I got the SWM racks at an EOFY sale discount and I already owned the Givi cases, so it was a reasonable experiment for me (I can quickly swap to KTM cases/Givi) and they are only three fingers wider than the widest point of the KTM cases - but they are heavier......

PS there is a new design out which may fit closer than my gen1 racks.... but smaller 36Ltr cases would solve the width issue and Givi cases are 200% waterproof no argument!
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Re: '17 Bag Won't Come Off

Post by mick shere » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:48 am

Yep my bags look like they arent snug when closed but they have never leaked

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