Any reliable SD-GT's out there?

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Post by Superdave99 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:09 am

16 sdgt @ 25000 miles in just over a year and a half, no major issues and going strong.knock on wood. have had the normal recalls as everyone else. afew little niggles but dont know any bike that doesnt. no deal breakers for me just adds character. 8-) still puts big :D on my mug. great bike.

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Post by jjscsix » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:53 am

Seems like a good time to update this thread. I'm at almost exactly one year now. Despite not riding for nearly three months due to open heart surgery, and having two other bikes, I'm just over 10,000 miles now. Zero problems.
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Re: Any reliable SD-GT's out there?

Post by reciprocation23 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:06 am

I have a 16 GT in the states, owned for 18 months. KTM aka killer to maintain lol, everything is twice the price of Others but so is the riding experience! I have a slip on, flapper delete and O2 delete from Rottweiler. I have 6000 miles on her. And this is by far the best bike I have ever ridden! I notice a little bar shake at high speeds and people say that when the front tire wears, that happens, or switch to PR5's . I love the grip of the Angel GT tho. Puig's touring screen has been great! Their hand guards get a 3 out of 5 from me. They don't block the wind on those brisk days. My chain (I clean it and lube it religiously. Looks like it did when I bought it.) Seems to be in great shape. I do flog this bike from time to time. All motored fluids. Other than that, it's been a dream to ride. I'll never look for another bike. Super Duke GT for life.

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Post by DaveNZ » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:50 am

My GT just ticked over 28,000kms with a 2200km trip last week, no issues other than the stand spur. Bloody reliable these 1290 KTMs :D
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Post by Superdave99 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:01 pm

30K and going strong on 16sdgt.. same here no major problems so far( knock on wood) side stand spur and anew did chain about 5k back :D fantastic bike...

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Post by Aussie Dave » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:41 am

G'day all,

Over on the KTM forum there are a couple of 17SDGT's in the 40,000km zone...... this thread has a dreadful title which implies KTM's are disasters waiting to happen...... but most forum issues have been down to poor workmanship or gripes from new owners transitioning from long running Jap models that have had all bugs ironed out decades ago........ but were still to big and heavy :lol:

I've started back riding from a lengthy recovery (unlike my idol..... jjscsix)..... so I can only say 11,540kms as of today on a 17 SDGT........ and the only issue was a self inflicted one cause by a UK sourced charcoal canister removal dongle....... it burned out causing a few weird warning messages..... but at no time did the bike stop running well...... just a temporary scary time with 'warnings' which were "cured" by swapping the burned out resistor for the oem purge valve.

In fact, anyone thinking of removing the charcoal canister.... you actually don't need a resistor - just de-hose (and plug the throttle body hoses) the purge valve and leave it plugged in to the harness...... simples. Must still reroute the fuel vent hose to a safe location....... but it's a nil cost operation ;) .

The OP's post was made when he was struggling with a 16 model's crook WP front suspension valving, and KTM dealerships that knew even less than he did (at the time)...... I won't mention other major brands reliability issues, just to put complaints into context :roll:...... so 1290SD's ARE reliable, unless they have been worked on by poorly trained/time pressured tech's. ;)

Ps that reminds me...... one of the go hard guys on the KTM forum just discovered his steering head was not torqued down enough.... he was asking if sliding the forks up 2-3 rings would make his steer better into turns....... by tensioning his head bearings correctly, his forks came further through the head clamp, and by sliding them up 8mm he at long last found the solution to his slow steering issue........ he's now a very happy camper :lol:
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Re: Any reliable SD-GT's out there?

Post by Sprayvid » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:19 pm

Probably not would be my answer. Unfortunately my 2016 GT has had quite a few issues. The worst so far being the £437.00 leaking radiator 3 months out of warranty. The LH switchgear was replaced under warranty after a year but the scrolling function via the 4 buttons is now playing up, a replacement is £398.00.

Other issues:

Corroded oil filler neck
Brake MC (recall)
Fuel hose (recall)
Clutch slave cylinder replaced under warranty twice ( then Oberon 3rd time)

I’d like to know if anyone has had issues with the facelifted super-ugly 2019 version ?

However it’s a great bike to ride, personally I think much better than the Multistrada 1260S which feels sluggish. The GT can be transformed with some decent tyres such as Pilot Road 4’s or 5’s.
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Post by Aussie Dave » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:12 pm

Day 9... Home.... 4.41pm turdsday... 3,037kms... KTM ran faultlessly.... one Ducati MS1200 had a no start, once, the other broke its panner lugs and we had to strap a case on the seat, the HD had to go to Sydney for a new rear tyre .jpg
Day 9... Home.... 4.41pm turdsday... 3,037kms... KTM ran faultlessly.... one Ducati MS1200 had a no start, once, the other broke its panner lugs and we had to strap a case on the seat, the HD had to go to Sydney for a new rear tyre .jpg (63.33 KiB) Viewed 2872 times
G'day Sprayvid,

Corroded oil filler neck..... you must ride on salty snow roads? Try fitting a fender extender/mudflap? Switch gear failure? Does your GT get left out in the weather overnight.... my switchgear is 3yo and I use the buttons a lot (26,000kms-16,000mls) and have no issues.

The brake and fuel line recall's were precautionary actions and should not be viewed as an 'unreliability issue', and in any case the brake's are a "Brembo" product and my KTM mech advised the fuel hose was an issue for only a couple of SDGT's worldwide, so the factory decided to issue the recall to be super safe.

Some owners have reported fuel pump/filter issues with ethanol fuel usage.

I have a 17 SDGT with 26,000kms up, and on the KTM Forum there are guys with over 40k and one with 100k kms up....... I've not read of any clutch slave cylinder problems but maybe I have missed a post..... i know some rear brake master cylinders (Brembo again) are sometimes not applying the rear brakes (mine did due to lack of use in 2018 when I was sidelined for a medical issue)..... but with some re-bleeding and more use this year it has been fine.

I haven't read of any/many issues with the 2019's - and gripes seem to have evaporated for the gen 1 SDGT's as owners upgraded their software to 2019 spec. I was just thinking that the forum's had gone very quite recently with no pleas for help for a very long time...... just debates about gearing or tyre pressure or oil change choices. Also my SDGT uses zero oil..... something my prev bike (an Aprilia) couldn't claim.

I suppose bikes of any brand can have issues..... my BMW friends have had their ECU's replaced under recall and my Ducati friends often laugh about their continual Brembo brake issues. Maybe some early 16 models might have been rushed off the production line.... but I know of a few on the other forum that are 100% ok and are past 30,000kms.

If the 2019 SDGT is an ugly duckling.... have a look at the front of our 17Gt's...... it's a face only a mother could love :lol: ...... but it's such a great bike to ride! Mine had those couple of minor recall's done in January and the 2019 ECU upgrade in June, and has always been 100% reliable.....

The radiator does seem to be a big issue though.... maybe they had a bad batch or maybe vibrations get to them when the throttle bodies need re-synchro-ing..... or maybe they are a poor quality part - no issues with mine (touch wood)..... :roll: Maybe it was an early gen 1 issue or as one post reported, if the rubbers holding the rad are perished/damaged maybe vibrations get to them (?).

PS I don't have any dongles fitted (they cause error messages if faulty). I get dressed in my gear and jump on and ride it..... naturally it gets all the updates at official services and is worked on by a KTM mechanic who owns a KTM himself, so maybe he knows a few more things than a regular mech (?). I use Motorex Top Speed and change it myself more frequently than the factory interval.

Yes, agree, Michelin road 5's are fantastic..... I'm using 34-35psi F and 36-37psi R and the grip is great and the wear is minimal...... had them on now for almost 12,000kms..... heaps of tread left.... looks like easily ok to 15,000kms but with lots more feel than Angel GT's.

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Post by DaveNZ » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:06 pm

^^ Dave i wore my front PR5 out in 6000kms, rear still had a few 1000 left, but changed out for a set of Conti Road Attacks. But 6000 was the best milage I've had of any tire on the GT, and i still have the PR5 on my Multistrada. Great tire. Ive done a 600km trip on the Conti so far and they felt great, and on next Wednesday I'm heading down NZs South Island for a 10 day trip with a bunch of guys who ride Tuono 1100, BMW RRs, 1290Rs Triumph 1050s etc. The GT will get a work out :D
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Post by Aussie Dave » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:15 pm

Cheers DaveNZ...... you lucky bugger...... it's stifling hot over here and there are many fires causing road closures for interstate travelers ..... and even some local roads on the sunshine coast and to the west in the ranges around Toowoomba......

Have a great ride (I know you will on that 100% reliable 30,000km old weapon!).

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Re: Any reliable SD-GT's out there?

Post by DaveNZ » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:47 am

Theres now 140 NZ firefighters over in your neck of the woods Dave fighting fires, jeez i really hope they can put those fires out, so bloody devastating and scary, we are getting smoke and ash over here and incredible sun sets due to your fires.
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Plenty of Reliable SDGT's

Post by Aussie Dave » Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:51 pm

Cheeze on the OP's title....... :roll:

The OP had a very early build 16 which the US seemed to have too many in stock at too high a price so began to discount for quick sales - also the US dealers seemed to know nothing about the product.

The OP had some fork chatter and poor track day handling (dynamic suspension isn't well suited nor capable of being tuned for track work, nor fine tuned for touring apart from the pre programmed settings), so this title got some traction....... funny enough, assembly issues were ironed out in mid 2016 and vastly improved by new KTM derived software written for the 19 model. It was offered as an upgrade for gen 1 GT's after the new model was released. This fixed the poor rebound damping and improved the fork action and updated some engine maps. Believe it or not, that is what happened.... I have it on my 17SDGT so I have experienced it first hand ;) .

Typical of many first model releases..... KTM might have been rushing to get stock out to market in the early days, but I read a bike magazine report a rear or so ago, that stated they quickly expanded their staff/assembly lines to cope with demand, improving their quality control - and it shows...... I have the first of the 2017 models and it has been fine, just like later 16 models.

Some allowance is needed for being a "1st off the production line" purchaser...... but KTM is selling plenty of these things and the forum's are not overflowing with endless complaints like I used to see on the Aprilia fourms.... so they must be a well sorted bike for most owners....... just remember they are tall geared and may need a sprocket change to make them nicer in heavy traffic..... and they are not 'run in' at 620mls - Euro bikes can take 5-8000mls to give their best.. ;) .

My friends have had gripes about their bikes.... BMW's/Ducati's/Honda's/Kawasaki's etc etc... a good dealer/agent makes a world of difference to customer satisfaction...... :lol: .

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Re: Any reliable SD-GT's out there?

Post by Sprayvid » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:53 pm

Rather annoyingly I have had 5 KTM's over a period of 15 years. A Mk 1 990 Superduke which needed a replacement sprag clutch under warranty. A Mk 2 990 SD, no issues. A 990 SMT 25K miles 6 years and no issues. An RC8R no issues. Followed by a 1290 GT which has made me think very carefully about future KTM ownership + the attitude of KTM UK which is basically 'deny everthing'.
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Re: Any reliable SD-GT's out there?

Post by Winger » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:14 am

Well i’m A long way from knowing if my GT is going to be any good bought it last May*secondhand)tried 5 different KTM dealers before I found one that I was happy with(just for servicing)and with 5 other bikes in the garage I could walk away from it both literally and financially if I have too so the jury is still out for me.

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Re: Any reliable SD-GT's out there?

Post by Superdave99 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:11 am

last valve check all still in specs. still going strong and still a :D machine...
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Any reliable SD-GT's out there?

Post by buddhabiker » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:45 am

I have a Super Duke R with about 22,000 miles. I had the front master cylinder, fuel pump and left switchgear (stuck hi beam switch) replaced under warranty. I have the soft bags and the zippers hang up sometimes.

Everything else has been normal wear items. Recently had the valves adjusted (2 needed it), front brake pads and chain
and sprockets replaced. Have gone through five sets of M7RR’s. I am now on a front Bridgestone Battlax S22. LOVE it! MUCH more confidence inspiring grip! That’s what’s on the 2020 SDR. I wish I had switched earlier!

I previously owned a BMW R1200RT.

As my first KTM, I was concerned about reliability, but my Duke has exceeded my expectations in dependability and performance!


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