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GT missing from KTM site

Post by vet57air » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:48 am

Noticed that the GT is no longer on the Canada, U.S. and Mexico KTM websites. What to you make of that?

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by DaveW » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:35 am

Watch this space...............

Split light and display dash like the 1290r

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by jjscsix » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:07 pm

When I bought my bike about six weeks ago my dealer told me there would be no 2018s coming to the states. That just confirms he was right.
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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by jjscsix » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:08 pm

When I bought my bike about six weeks ago my dealer told me there would be no 2018s coming to the states. That just confirms he was right.
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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by GaryCulb » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:42 pm

Yep, my KTM Dealer told me the same thing when I got my 2017. They said the sales of the KTM GT in the USA where much less than the mother ship expected. This KTM Dealer still has two 2016 models reduced almost $5K from the orginal price they have yet to sale. Best,

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by mick shere » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:22 pm

So we own a desirable collectable?

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by GaryCulb » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:49 pm

OOOOHHHHHH YYYYAAAAAHHHHHHHH BBBBABBBBYYYYYYYYY!!!!

This Thing Rocks!!

Now, because you can't get it. Everyone is going to want one in the USA.


OOOOHHHHHH YYYYAAAAAHHHHHHHH BBBBABBBBYYYYYYYYY!!!!


Best,

Doc :D :D

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by mick shere » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:15 pm

:D

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by pk1 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:46 am

It's still available on ktm.com in the uk?

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by jjscsix » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:15 pm

pk1 wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:46 am
It's still available on ktm.com in the uk?
I think this is it....

https://www.ktm.com/sports-tourer/1290-super-duke-gt/
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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by RDKLL » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:08 am

Anybody want to bet there will be no 2019...

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by eXiLe88 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:13 pm

RDKLL wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:08 am
Anybody want to bet there will be no 2019...
Ya have to belive!

Actually the GT sales were not as bad as many think, but many knowing KTM did not buy the 2016 due to some gremlins, waited the 2017 and then thought 2018 the TFT bike was coming.

KTM did not clearly lay out their plan for this bike and this has been a drama.

I am coming from an Aprilia Shiver, a wonderful bike with some defects, but funnily enough everyone was afraid of the front end vibrations when in reality it was an issue for some individual bikes. The front on the Shiver had zero feel but it is quite stable until driven reasonably, the real issue is the rear shock.

However Aprilia never put its neck out and their wonderful 750cc bike is so rare people used to ask me: "What kind of bike is that? Shiver? Never heard of it"

Now the problem will be Euro5 and the SD 3.0...the same issue as with the MY2018 will come up again if they don't properly manage the communication

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by vet57air » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:24 pm

The GT's North American release was in June 2016 in Whistler B.C. Canada. They brought in about 70 GT's for the press and dealers to ride. Those 70 were later sold as demos with some miles on them. There were two display bikes there, one Orange, one Grey. These were sold as new. I got the Orange one. Love it.
I would have to think the GT was in short supply in North America for 2016 being its first year. Interested to hear from anyone else who was able to buy a new 2016 GT in North America.
The GT's competition has been the Ducati Multi and the BMW 1000XR. All premium bikes, with premium prices, with the Multi S at about $23K the BMW at $22K and the KTM at $21K in Canada. Last years models go cheaper.
They are still selling the Multi and the XR in North America this year. Do they sell more of these bikes than KTM? If you read the reviews of these bikes, the press love the GT. I am trying to understand why KTM decided not to market the GT in North America for 2018? I sat on a 2018 Kawasaki H2 SX SE today. Another rival for the GT. Nice bike, but at $25K the most expensive of the lot. I really doubt Kawasaki will sell more
of these than the GT.

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by jjscsix » Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:45 am

vet57air wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:24 pm
The GT's North American release was in June 2016 in Whistler B.C. Canada. They brought in about 70 GT's for the press and dealers to ride. Those 70 were later sold as demos with some miles on them. There were two display bikes there, one Orange, one Grey. These were sold as new. I got the Orange one. Love it.
I would have to think the GT was in short supply in North America for 2016 being its first year. Interested to hear from anyone else who was able to buy a new 2016 GT in North America.
The GT's competition has been the Ducati Multi and the BMW 1000XR. All premium bikes, with premium prices, with the Multi S at about $23K the BMW at $22K and the KTM at $21K in Canada. Last years models go cheaper.
They are still selling the Multi and the XR in North America this year. Do they sell more of these bikes than KTM? If you read the reviews of these bikes, the press love the GT. I am trying to understand why KTM decided not to market the GT in North America for 2018? I sat on a 2018 Kawasaki H2 SX SE today. Another rival for the GT. Nice bike, but at $25K the most expensive of the lot. I really doubt Kawasaki will sell more
of these than the GT.
I'm confused as to why you don't understand. The bike was not selling in the U.S. so they were giving dealers several thousand dollar incentives to move them. I bought mine at $5,000 off MSRP.

When the 2018 was on the U.S. site they were showing the saddlebags as an option, which were standard on 16-17s in the U.S. I assume they were going to lower the price recognizing that $20,000 was too much. And I agree it was. Without the discounts I was not a buyer.
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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by vet57air » Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:35 am

jjscsix wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:45 am
vet57air wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:24 pm
The GT's North American release was in June 2016 in Whistler B.C. Canada. They brought in about 70 GT's for the press and dealers to ride. Those 70 were later sold as demos with some miles on them. There were two display bikes there, one Orange, one Grey. These were sold as new. I got the Orange one. Love it.
I would have to think the GT was in short supply in North America for 2016 being its first year. Interested to hear from anyone else who was able to buy a new 2016 GT in North America.
The GT's competition has been the Ducati Multi and the BMW 1000XR. All premium bikes, with premium prices, with the Multi S at about $23K the BMW at $22K and the KTM at $21K in Canada. Last years models go cheaper.
They are still selling the Multi and the XR in North America this year. Do they sell more of these bikes than KTM? If you read the reviews of these bikes, the press love the GT. I am trying to understand why KTM decided not to market the GT in North America for 2018? I sat on a 2018 Kawasaki H2 SX SE today. Another rival for the GT. Nice bike, but at $25K the most expensive of the lot. I really doubt Kawasaki will sell more
of these than the GT.
I'm confused as to why you don't understand. The bike was not selling in the U.S. so they were giving dealers several thousand dollar incentives to move them. I bought mine at $5,000 off MSRP.

When the 2018 was on the U.S. site they were showing the saddlebags as an option, which were standard on 16-17s in the U.S. I assume they were going to lower the price recognizing that $20,000 was too much. And I agree it was. Without the discounts I was not a buyer.
It's O.K. I am always confused. Yes there are big discounts for last years models but that is not limited to just KTM. My point is the GT is a great bike that competes with the bikes I mentioned and yet they are still offered in North America. Are there that many more Multi's and 1000XR's sold? I have not seen any official release that KTM has discontinued due to low sales (although it maybe true). Could it be a production issue, marketing or something else?

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by GaryCulb » Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:59 am

The three bikes you mention were the ones I had finally decided to choose from for a Second Sports Touring ride. The Ducati Multrstrada Touring was a fantastic bike. The Ducati was out of the running since, they were coming out with a new engine in 2018 & reliabilty was an issue. The BMW 1000XR was a great bike. The handlebar vibrations even in the 2018's & being a little small for me made it come in second place. When the KTM Dealer dropped their price $5K on the 2017 KTM SDGT just like jjscix- it was a no brainer.

Once you have a ride with >150 hp it is realy hard to go down in power & torque.

The KTM Dealer I bought my 2017 KTM GT still has several 2016's for sale. Even with > $5K off they are not moving. Service said it was because KTM would not upgrade them with the features on the 2017's??? All the 2017's are gone!!

The questions you pose may best be answered by the mothership. We would only be speculating. Sales performance usually equals release/ production with motocycles??

Best,

Doc ;) ;)

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by dasjefe » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:26 am

I too purchased a 2017 for about 5k off of MSRP here in Texas. The dealer I bought it from also had a 2016 in stock. I considered a Multistrada, but at the price I got for the KTM I just could not turn it down. Very happy with my GT so far. To my mind the KTM has the Muti beat in just about every category save for looks. Crazy you can make a bike this good and still not be able to get someone to buy it. I think the styling of the bike is probably off-putting for a lot of people. It is also pretty heavily weighted toward sportiness which somehow turns people off too.

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by jjscsix » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:41 am

vet57air wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:35 am
jjscsix wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:45 am
vet57air wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:24 pm
The GT's North American release was in June 2016 in Whistler B.C. Canada. They brought in about 70 GT's for the press and dealers to ride. Those 70 were later sold as demos with some miles on them. There were two display bikes there, one Orange, one Grey. These were sold as new. I got the Orange one. Love it.
I would have to think the GT was in short supply in North America for 2016 being its first year. Interested to hear from anyone else who was able to buy a new 2016 GT in North America.
The GT's competition has been the Ducati Multi and the BMW 1000XR. All premium bikes, with premium prices, with the Multi S at about $23K the BMW at $22K and the KTM at $21K in Canada. Last years models go cheaper.
They are still selling the Multi and the XR in North America this year. Do they sell more of these bikes than KTM? If you read the reviews of these bikes, the press love the GT. I am trying to understand why KTM decided not to market the GT in North America for 2018? I sat on a 2018 Kawasaki H2 SX SE today. Another rival for the GT. Nice bike, but at $25K the most expensive of the lot. I really doubt Kawasaki will sell more
of these than the GT.
I'm confused as to why you don't understand. The bike was not selling in the U.S. so they were giving dealers several thousand dollar incentives to move them. I bought mine at $5,000 off MSRP.

When the 2018 was on the U.S. site they were showing the saddlebags as an option, which were standard on 16-17s in the U.S. I assume they were going to lower the price recognizing that $20,000 was too much. And I agree it was. Without the discounts I was not a buyer.
It's O.K. I am always confused. Yes there are big discounts for last years models but that is not limited to just KTM. My point is the GT is a great bike that competes with the bikes I mentioned and yet they are still offered in North America. Are there that many more Multi's and 1000XR's sold? I have not seen any official release that KTM has discontinued due to low sales (although it maybe true). Could it be a production issue, marketing or something else?
It's a great bike that was not selling. In December Cycle Trader showed approx 155 new units in stock in the U.S. I just now looked and today, several months later there are still 127 in stock. I feel quite certain that the reason they are not selling a 2018 in the states is that dealers had no interest in buying any more for stock. This does not mean KTM is "discontinuing" the bike. They just are not bringing them into the states this year.

Hopefully as the inventory dwindles down they will bring it back at a lower price point. I will also say that the Black 2018 that the are building is a much better looking bike than the color combinations that were being sold. You can see the black one on the EU site I posted the link to.

The motorcycle industry has sucked ever since 2008. The GT niche is a very small niche. I really think price was its biggest problem. That's why I bought the S1000R two and a half years ago. I knew all about the GT then, but as I said earlier, I never even gave it a thought at $5000 more when even the S1000R was already $5000 more than I paid for the Ninja 1000 that I had before it.
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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by vet57air » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:04 pm

jjscsix wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:41 am
vet57air wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:35 am
jjscsix wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:45 am


I'm confused as to why you don't understand. The bike was not selling in the U.S. so they were giving dealers several thousand dollar incentives to move them. I bought mine at $5,000 off MSRP.

When the 2018 was on the U.S. site they were showing the saddlebags as an option, which were standard on 16-17s in the U.S. I assume they were going to lower the price recognizing that $20,000 was too much. And I agree it was. Without the discounts I was not a buyer.
It's O.K. I am always confused. Yes there are big discounts for last years models but that is not limited to just KTM. My point is the GT is a great bike that competes with the bikes I mentioned and yet they are still offered in North America. Are there that many more Multi's and 1000XR's sold? I have not seen any official release that KTM has discontinued due to low sales (although it maybe true). Could it be a production issue, marketing or something else?
It's a great bike that was not selling. In December Cycle Trader showed approx 155 new units in stock in the U.S. I just now looked and today, several months later there are still 127 in stock. I feel quite certain that the reason they are not selling a 2018 in the states is that dealers had no interest in buying any more for stock. This does not mean KTM is "discontinuing" the bike. They just are not bringing them into the states this year.

Hopefully as the inventory dwindles down they will bring it back at a lower price point. I will also say that the Black 2018 that the are building is a much better looking bike than the color combinations that were being sold. You can see the black one on the EU site I posted the link to.

The motorcycle industry has sucked ever since 2008. The GT niche is a very small niche. I really think price was its biggest problem. That's why I bought the S1000R two and a half years ago. I knew all about the GT then, but as I said earlier, I never even gave it a thought at $5000 more when even the S1000R was already $5000 more than I paid for the Ninja 1000 that I had before it.
Good points, but is not your S1000R's equal, the KTM 1290R? I would say the 1290 GT's competition is the Ducati Multistrata and the BMW 1000XR. In our neck of the woods they are priced similiar with the Multi as the most expensive.

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Re: GT missing from KTM site

Post by jjscsix » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:20 pm

vet57air wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:04 pm
jjscsix wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:41 am
vet57air wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:35 am


It's O.K. I am always confused. Yes there are big discounts for last years models but that is not limited to just KTM. My point is the GT is a great bike that competes with the bikes I mentioned and yet they are still offered in North America. Are there that many more Multi's and 1000XR's sold? I have not seen any official release that KTM has discontinued due to low sales (although it maybe true). Could it be a production issue, marketing or something else?
It's a great bike that was not selling. In December Cycle Trader showed approx 155 new units in stock in the U.S. I just now looked and today, several months later there are still 127 in stock. I feel quite certain that the reason they are not selling a 2018 in the states is that dealers had no interest in buying any more for stock. This does not mean KTM is "discontinuing" the bike. They just are not bringing them into the states this year.

Hopefully as the inventory dwindles down they will bring it back at a lower price point. I will also say that the Black 2018 that the are building is a much better looking bike than the color combinations that were being sold. You can see the black one on the EU site I posted the link to.

The motorcycle industry has sucked ever since 2008. The GT niche is a very small niche. I really think price was its biggest problem. That's why I bought the S1000R two and a half years ago. I knew all about the GT then, but as I said earlier, I never even gave it a thought at $5000 more when even the S1000R was already $5000 more than I paid for the Ninja 1000 that I had before it.
Good points, but is not your S1000R's equal, the KTM 1290R? I would say the 1290 GT's competition is the Ducati Multistrata and the BMW 1000XR. In our neck of the woods they are priced similiar with the Multi as the most expensive.
The S1000R is a nice bike and I liked it a lot. To me they are close to being direct competitors but not quite. The Multi and XR are too damn tall and lean toward the adventure side too much for me, especially the multi.

I agree the multi and SD GT are priced competitively and have similar equipment. But that doesn’t mean I want to spend that much money and that was my point. Don’t forget that KTM does have a direct competitor to the Multi, and it’s not the GT.

Good discussion and I appreciate your points.
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