New 2016 SDGT

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New 2016 SDGT

Post by Twisty » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:30 pm

Hi Guys.
I’ve just purchased a 2016 SDGT. 0 miles. I test rode a ‘17 and loved it. Went ahead and purchased a deeply discounted ‘16. Too cold to ride it home 4 hours. Now I’ve noticed some on this forum mentioned problems with ‘16’s but am having problems finding exactly what the issues are. Please tell me what the issues are. It may not be too late to not take the bike and get a refund. Thanks!
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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by akarmire » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:39 pm

I have 6500 miles on mine, no issues worth mentioning besides the rear brake reservoir cap falls off almost all of them( tighten it with a dab of loctite of finger nail polish) the spur on the kick stand has broke off twice and learned to not use it.
Go ride the shit out it! Especially knowing you got a great deal for it.

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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by DaveNZ » Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:25 am

14500Kms on mine so far, and no problems what so ever, some have found the suspension harsh, and not working as it should, mines ok, it took about 5000Kms to free up, but I'm happy with it now. the forks seem to take a bit bed in, they weep for a few 1000Ks, other than that, theres nothing to report. :D And wellcome Twisty, call in regularly, and let us know how you enjoy the GT, PS, what did you ride before?
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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by Superdave99 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:58 am

12000 miles on my 16 sdgt with no issues. Knock on wood.... Like DaveNZ says a few have had problems. Get forks bedded. Most like rider with bags damping setting . Just twist the wrist and enjoy the grins... :D :D :shock: :D :D

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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by Twisty » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:09 pm

Thanks so much guys! That’s a relief😅. So I can expect a somewhat stiff ride and some weeping of oil from the front forks for the first thousand miles or so. Not many reported problems with the motor or electronics, right? Some wonky issues with the panniers, right?

Have any of you added motor slip regulation (msr) software upgrade? Worthwhile? Is the ergo heated seat much more comfortable? Has anyone changed the sprocket make the gearing less tall?

I REALLY appreciate your help/input.

I’m so excited to be a new member of the orange family!

Thanks again.

Peter

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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by Twisty » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:32 pm

BTW, I currently ride a 2011 BMW R1200R Classic. Great bike since I replaced the shocks with Ohlins. But the bike has been extremely unreliable with a lot of electrical gremlins and idle/stalling issues. I thought I was going to upgrade to a waterboxer but...the RT made me feel old when I rode it—too lux, the RS surprisingly doesn’t comer that well in the tight twisties—Longer wheel base and rake, the S1000 XR motor is great, but the in line 4 just lacks character, and the R, while it does corner great, isn’t a great touring bike and I just didn’t love it.
I had never really thought about KTM, but when nothing else I could find really suited my needs, I looked at the SDGT. It’s deeply discounted in the States right now—an incredible value compared to BMW. So what the hell— why not give it a test ride? As soon as I pushed the ignition switch, I was sold. That V-twin! What a sound! The test ride was awesome. Great torque, handling, brakes, suspension. Easily the best bike I’ve ridden. I just hope the bike is reliable in the long run.
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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by MR C » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:01 am

It's a great time to buy a GT especially if your in the UK brand new GT on the road £10995 that's a £5000 saving !

My 2016 has been fantastic, I moved the horn from behind the radiator, when it got hot the horn would stop working once moved its been perfect, panniers lids had a gap and ktm exchanged for brand new ones, suspension just gets better and better with the miles, my bike has been re-mapped and with the 40T rear sprox it's a beast.

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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by Twisty » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:34 am

That’s great to hear Mr C. So a 40 tooth rear sprocket makes the gearing less tall, right? How has it changed the bike in your opinion? Has the horn issue been common? Was it difficult to relocate the horn?
Another question— I believe Dave mentioned that many prefer the sag setting of rider plus bags. Wouldn’t that setting make the suspension even stiffer/more harsh compared to the setting of just lone rider?
Thanks guys.
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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by Superdave99 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:59 am

I didnt opt for the MSR dont think many have. The slipper clutch is adequate for me with clutch modulation. Imo the ergo seats are well worth it if your in the saddle for afew hours at a time. I havent moved my horn so don't know. I rode in comfort setting and single rider damping for about the first 2k miles ( bedding in ) once softened up played with settings to soot my riding. Different strokes and all. I have the stock sprockets with the wide open Texas landscape...The main thing is ride and enjoy it. :D

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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by Twisty » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:04 am

Thanks Superdave99!
Really appreciate your input.
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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by Twisty » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:05 pm

Were there any announced changes to the ‘17 other than cosmetic? Did they change the suspension?

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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by DaveNZ » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:50 am

Ive fitted a rear 40T sprocket. and i like it, seems to help the quick shifter smooth out. The GT corners bloody well for a tourer, its so easy to remove any chicken strips, 4500Ks on these roadtec 01s, very happy with them, especially the front.
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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by MR C » Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:28 pm

The horn was common on the first batch of GT and SDR bikes and I think ktm replaced horns if you had this issue, I opted to move it myself and not only has the issue stopped but it's slightly louder, I used the original bracket, drilled m6 hole in the bracket and fixed to the side of block .
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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by Twisty » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:25 pm

Thanks guys. Looking forward to picking her up and getting rid of those chicken strips!

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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by Aussie Dave » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:11 am

G'day Twisty - from Aus :)

I have a 2017 GT and have just over 10,000kms (should have hit 15k kms by now but have been sickly or injured or it's been pissing rain on weekends..... :roll: ).

The only difference I know of between 016-017 models was the rear indicators were changed to slimline LED.

Far as I know same donk, frame, bodywork, lectronics etc etc .....maybe they got the assemblers to put them together with more skill/care after the rush to get some early 16 models out the door (who really knows?).

I had weepy fork seals until I took the guard off and pulled the dust covers down and lightly cross sanded the fork legs. Motor uses zero oil too (I am using Motorex Formula T 15w50 which is classed as semi synth and it is all a road rider needs and won't cause any glazing of the cylinder bores with ordinary riding - if racing then a full synth is probably better suited ;) ).

The others have covered your questions very well and I concur with them - they know their shit and speak the truth. I too used comfort damping and solo spring from new until the suspension felt softer, then I went up to 1+lgge and then increased the damping to street and now I even use sport- but it was really odd in the first couple of 000kms as the back felt too bouncy or too harsh if set to street etc......fear not it will bed in with kms - the motor will keep you amused while you wait for the bouncy bits to settle in.

No probs with my panniers but I don't overload them and make sure they close without any pressure from within - they are a silly shape.....maybe I should have just bought the SW Motech side rack and used my Givi 41's but the KTM cases are super light and very slim 8-)

Oh, after all this blarney - make sure you ask the tech's to either turn off the 'low tyre pressure' warning (but retain the TPMS readout) or if they know how.....reset the warning triggers from 36/42psi to say 30/32 - believe me you will not want to ride a 230kg 150rwhp bike with 42psi in the rear! My Angel GT's look like they will make 15,000km and I have been running 34f 36r solo and with cases. (it is very distracting to get a tyre pressure warning mid corner when having a bit of fun......so get it adjusted and just manually find the TPMS when you want to check on the fly).

Cheers mate and welcome to OrangeWorld.. ;)

Oh ok.....one more gem......I use Motul chain paste - it is like a big toothpaste tube with a brush on the end and it is super easy to lube the chain while on a multi day tour.......that's the only big flaw with the Gt - no centre stand.. :lol: but there are plenty of garage stands - have a look at the ABBA one as it holds the bike in the middle so you can rotate both wheels.....I bought the front and rear stands but they are a PIA to use.

I know, I know, just remembereded..... try using 'Sport' engine map from day 1......it's actually smoother than 'Street' and i tend to use it all the time (city or country) - it won't throw you over the back (street has the same power anyway....ie: full power.....just feels more abrupt in traffic than Sport map).

Alright, alright, last entry......gearing is close.....so close that changing the front sprocket is too big a change (ie equal to 3.5 rear teeth).....so you either go 40T (or 39T for minimal increase in revs) or do as I do and just use 5 gears unless doing errr 130ish k's in a group of mad Ducati riders.....can't be last eh? :lol:
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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by Twisty » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:31 pm

G'day Dave!

Thanks for your thorough overview of the bike--very helpful--especially about the tire pressure warning.

Aren't the "weepy fork seals" what actually cause the shocks to "bed in"? So lightly sanding the casing improved the seal?

I'm already planning on changing the rear sprocket to 40T as I love low end torque more than blazing top speed.

Thanks for the tips on Moltul paste and the sport engine mapping.

Did you by chance upgrade the software with motor slip regulation (MSR)? Thoughts?

Did you upgrade to the ergo seat?

Looking forward to breaking her in.

Peter

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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by DaveNZ » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:41 pm

The seat is very comfortable Twisty, and a good shape, the screen works well, I'm happy with mine, no fine buffeting like on the multistrada factory screens. Once you get your bike you will be able overtime make assessments on to small changes you might want to make, but out of the box, the bike is bloody amazing.
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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by Twisty » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:08 am

All right! Screw the cold. I’m picking up the bike on Thursday despite freezing weather. I’m having the ergo heated seat and MSR programmed in. I’m looking forward to finally riding the beast home!

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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by AllanP » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:34 am

I looked at the weather forecast for your part of the world on Thursday Twisty and my weather service predicts 49F............great GT riding weather!

I bought my bike in Texas in the spring and never had a use for the heated seat. By the time I had my first cold ride months later, I'd forgot it was on the bike until I was almost home and I froze my ass off for nothing :D

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Re: New 2016 SDGT

Post by Twisty » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:35 pm

Thanks Allan. When I’ll be traveling it will be in the 30’s. But I’ll be prepared. Looking forward to it!

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