Just back from South of France.

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Just back from South of France.

Post by fredm » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:32 pm

Hi all, thought I would share a few thoughts on the GT for those who might be interested.
First off, the fuel consumption. If the onboard display can be believed this engine is amazing, 51.4 mpg.

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Considering that on the Autoroute sections I was always around the 140/150 kph mark, riding 2 up with the KTM luggage full to the brim.
The screen on the GT doesn't look like it would do much but it is surprising, to me anyway, how effective it is at breaking up the wind blast at those speeds. Ok, once you start cruising at 180kph it starts to struggle.

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Before the trip I considered fitting the standard steel rear sprocket back on the bike as I thought the Sitta 40t alloy sprocket would be history by the time I got back. As you can see after covering about 2300 miles in total now there is hardly any wear on the thing. Great quality sprockets.

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Also a big thumbs up goes to Motul C5 Chain Paste. Brilliant stuff ! First time that I have used it and now I don't think I will use anything else. A few dabs on the links every morning was all that was needed. It doesn't fling off everywhere and the rain doesn't wash it off either. We went through a couple of torrential storms last week. The tube fits easily under the passenger seat.

My previous 4 bikes have been Suzuki Hayabusa's, this bike is a revelation.

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Re: Just back from South of France.

Post by mick shere » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:02 pm

Great to read your write up, especially as a 3 time busa owner (dropping mine off tomorrow at the shop for part ex assessment, it is going to hurt) I pick mine up later this week and keen as I am after squeezing youtube almost dry, its fantastic to see you addressed my concerns, especially the screen, the 2 up comfort and the fuel consumption, looks like its not only my knees that will be happy
many thanks

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Re: Just back from South of France.

Post by mick shere » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:10 pm

Why did you change the sprocket? Ive read the standard gearing is a bit too high for around our roads

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Re: Just back from South of France.

Post by Aussie Dave » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:03 am

Great to hear from you Fredm.. :)

I've seen 22km/ltr (that's rare but it is over 60mpg) on my dash while using cruise control on our heavily supervised Gold Coast motorway!

My thing averages the same as yours, though headwinds/inclines/fast corners will see the economy drop a tad, but all in all, the GT will get 50mpg (18.something k/ltr) with 22 litres of useable fuel to a full tank - I don't believe my range readout, but the av Cons is verified by doing the maths at the pump (speedo is accurate to 1% by Garmin).

I hit reserve (flashing last bar) recently and refuelled within 10 kms and it took 19.5 ltrs = so reserve has 3 'real' litres and an air gap ;).

Oh bugger, the cat is pestering me for the chair.......better go..... :roll:

Ps Mick, the Gt isn't to over geared, but it benefits from one or two extra teeth on the rear sprocket instead of one less on the front (which equates to three rear teeth).....so that 6th isn't so useless and the motor is kept in the sweet spot 4500-5000+ rpms in real world riding.......I'm wanting to alter mine but I just can't buy the steel 39 and 40t rears in or out of Australia... :( :x .....time will tell, so I just treat mine as a 5speed for now.. ;)
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Re: Just back from South of France.

Post by fredm » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:44 am

Hi Mick, yeah I think you will be happy with the KTM although it is very different from a Hayabusa. I put about 150 miles on the AMS KTM demo bike and still wasn't 100% sure I was doing the right thing. However, this trip we just had has convinced me I would never swap back to the Suzuki. During the trip I suffered no knee pain from long days in the saddle, no neck pain from hi speed autoroute shenanagins, and no wrist pain from slow speed stuff in towns, all of the reasons I decided the Suzuki had to go.

Yes, I did find that the standard gearing was too high, 2nd gear was a little too high for slow speeds in town, mini roundabouts, etc. I had to slip the clutch and 1st gear too low. And I felt that 6th gear wasn't useable below 60mph. Adding 2 teeth to the rear has made the bike much easier to ride.

One thing I noticed during the trip is that as the mileage increased the engine became smoother and more eager to rev. Now with 3000 miles on the clock it feels very different from how it was new. In fact it wouldn't surprise me that it might pull standard gearing better now.

Great bike.

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Re: Just back from South of France.

Post by fredm » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:56 am

Hi Aussie Dave, I've not found any steel 40 t rear sprockets either. These Italian Sitta sprockets seem up to the job though. They are a tad expensive but if they last 6000 miles I'll be happy.

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Re: Just back from South of France.

Post by Aussie Dave » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:31 am

Cheers Fredm,

I did find Esjot & JT sprockets in steel but I couldn't buy them as good old AUS wasn't on the mailing list (must have been a Euro only deal at the time...and the Aus agents couldn't/wouldn't get them in for whatever reason). I get around 80-100k kms out of chains & sproglets as I lube and adjust them every 5 minutes :lol: so the alloy ones just wouldn't last 3 months here in the land down under.

I've got over 8000kms (approx 5000mls) on my Orange bike and yes the motor does pull the gears better with age but it still likes a lower gear when climbing hills or in traffic, so I think from DaveNZ's exerience, the 40t gives about 300-350 rpms and the 39t about 180rpms for the same speed in oem ratios.......and I wanted about 250rpms ...... so I've got to find the sprockets, and then choose which one...... :lol: ......reckon I'll buy both sizes since it's a quick change system....then I can fine tune gearing to new tyre's etc or type of riding (ie short squirts or long fuel guzzling adventures.. ;) ).

In a way it would have been better if the GT was well over-geared.....then the 16t front would have been the best fit......but it is so close to perfect gearing......just needs a 39.5 tooth rear or a 16.5t front eh? :lol:

Luckily the gearbox is amazing......no issues with cog-swapping..... :D
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Just back from South of France.

Post by MR C » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:17 am

Fredm, glad you like the 40t, its ideal for 2 up giving you the added pull with the additional weight makes the 40t a no brainier. I really think the chain needs a link n half added not because it's tight but because I found the bike lost some stability with the shorter wheelbase.
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Re: Just back from South of France.

Post by DaveNZ » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:37 am

fredm wrote:Hi Aussie Dave, I've not found any steel 40 t rear sprockets either. These Italian Sitta sprockets seem up to the job though. They are a tad expensive but if they last 6000 miles I'll be happy.
i found mine on eBay out of Germany, reasonably priced and postage, and its black. :evil:
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Re: Just back from South of France.

Post by AllanP » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:39 am

Great ride! Did you hit any rain on the trip and I'd be interested in any observations you have about that.

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