1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

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1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by Brad » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:33 pm

ive been experiencing speed wobbles at speeds ranging from 100 - 130 mph.
I contacted KTM corporate to find out when I could expect my new fork cartridge , and was expressing my concern on the front end wobble . a few days later I got a call from KTM corporate and they told me that the stock continental trail attack tire's that came on the bike are the cause of the wobble and that they are going to give me a free set of Michelin anakee 3

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by Marki » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:49 pm

Odd considering Michelin don't recommend them for the SA.

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by Brad » Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:47 am

Marki wrote:Odd considering Michelin don't recommend them for the SA.
according to this video they are recommended :mrgreen: , I tried to post a link to video and it would not load . go to youtube
Michelin Anakee III Better Stability For Better Safety . I hope this helps everyone

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by Marki » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:09 am

They aren't on their site, they don't have a high enough speed rating. Won't make any difference since the 1290 is on the edge of the limit anyway. Also surprised they aren't giving you the Dunlop tyres since they have just homologate the bike with them.

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by jrc58 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:35 am

My ex 2014 BMW R1200GS LC came with Michelin Anakee 3.
A 2,000 km I sold the Michelin. Horrible.. Horrible. The worst tire to go fast.
I put Contitrailattack 2 and was transformed into another bike.
The Anakee 3 not want them nor given away.

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by Brad » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:28 am

jrc58 wrote:My ex 2014 BMW R1200GS LC came with Michelin Anakee 3.
A 2,000 km I sold the Michelin. Horrible.. Horrible. The worst tire to go fast.
I put Contitrailattack 2 and was transformed into another bike.
The Anakee 3 not want them nor given away.
wow ! thanks for the feedback , I have to say I loved the trail attack 2 on my monster , sticky and stable at all speeds but for some reason this super adventure does not like high speed . go to youtube and check out ; SuperMoto Monticello and the Texas KTM . this was in February , the roads were cold and I had 100 lbs of luggage but the trail attacks stayed planted

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by Brad » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:32 am

Marki wrote:They aren't on their site, they don't have a high enough speed rating. Won't make any difference since the 1290 is on the edge of the limit anyway. Also surprised they aren't giving you the Dunlop tyres since they have just homologate the bike with them.
I do love Dunlop's but they were not recommended by KTM .

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Re: RE: Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by Marki » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:53 am

Brad wrote:
Marki wrote:They aren't on their site, they don't have a high enough speed rating. Won't make any difference since the 1290 is on the edge of the limit anyway. Also surprised they aren't giving you the Dunlop tyres since they have just homologate the bike with them.
I do love Dunlop's but they were not recommended by KTM .
As of last week the dunlops are on the ktm list for the SA and they have removed the TA2. There is a thread over on adventure rider about it.

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by jrc58 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:37 pm

Dunlop ???

RoadSmart 2 or RoadSmart 3 ???

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by Brad » Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:33 am

jrc58 wrote:Dunlop ???

RoadSmart 2 or RoadSmart 3 ???
Dunlop Q3's are great on sport bikes but I've never tried them on adventure bike

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Re: RE: Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by Brad » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:50 am

Marki wrote:
Brad wrote:
Marki wrote:They aren't on their site, they don't have a high enough speed rating. Won't make any difference since the 1290 is on the edge of the limit anyway. Also surprised they aren't giving you the Dunlop tyres since they have just homologate the bike with them.
I do love Dunlop's but they were not recommended by KTM .
As of last week the dunlops are on the ktm list for the SA and they have removed the TA2. There is a thread over on adventure rider about it.

thanks ! i will check it out , but i think im going to sell this pig !

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by manxzulu » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:16 am

Just got back from the IoM TT and could not believe how bad my SA was when I got it over 120 mph. It was horrible. Is it really down to the tyres?

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by kten » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:57 pm

manxzulu wrote:Just got back from the IoM TT and could not believe how bad my SA was when I got it over 120 mph. It was horrible. Is it really down to the tyres?
Was the bike loaded with panniers or top box? These are known to create drama's, KTM acknowledge this and cover themselves with a speed limit when the boxes are fitted. If no boxes were fitted then I'd look at the headstock bearings, suspension settings, tyre pressure, body positioning.......but if the bike has the oem Conti TA2's on that could be your problem.

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by manxzulu » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:33 pm

As I said in my post I took all the luggage off as it had happened with my topbox on and I thought it may have been that.
If the head bearings have not been adjusted properly and OEM tyres are not up to the job on a brand new bike then I will really be pissed off!!!!

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Re: RE: Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by Marki » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:47 pm

manxzulu wrote:As I said in my post I took all the luggage off as it had happened with my topbox on and I thought it may have been that.
If the head bearings have not been adjusted properly and OEM tyres are not up to the job on a brand new bike then I will really be pissed off!!!!
Your probably really going to be really pissed off then! Life is too short, tighten the bearings and fit a better set if tyres the TA2 are garbage IMHO anyway I can't wait to get rid of them.

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by kten » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:41 am

manxzulu wrote:As I said in my post I took all the luggage off as it had happened with my topbox on and I thought it may have been that.
If the head bearings have not been adjusted properly and OEM tyres are not up to the job on a brand new bike then I will really be pissed off!!!!
LOL was I supposed to start at the beginning of the thread :lol:

and LOL even more if you think because you bought a new bike that it's going to be perfect :lol: :roll:

tighten the headstock bearing.......required by most new bikes once the bearing settles in. The tyres are shit, so either whinge like crazy to your dealer to replace them or wear them out real quick and replace them. Then ride it.

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by Spoon979 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:48 pm

My 1290 Super Adventure does the wobble as well, but my buddy's 1190 Adventure doesn't. We are both still running the Conti Attacks from the factory.

Good to know! thanks for posting.

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by JJay51 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:29 pm

I dont know if the wobble is down to the tyres but to say the TA2's are shit is nonsense, ive run them on my 1190 since new, mosty two up ridden hard on road in rain, very hot summers and winter without an issue at all and when its not two up they get pushed even harder :mrgreen: This is on an 'r'
If your TA2's arent working for you then you must be riding like a girl and not pushing them hard enough ;) :mrgreen:

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by kten » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:41 am

JJay51 wrote:I dont know if the wobble is down to the tyres but to say the TA2's are shit is nonsense, ive run them on my 1190 since new, mosty two up ridden hard on road in rain, very hot summers and winter without an issue at all and when its not two up they get pushed even harder :mrgreen: This is on an 'r'
If your TA2's arent working for you then you must be riding like a girl and not pushing them hard enough ;) :mrgreen:
So that would mean your tyres look like mine then? I don't think the Conti is a good tyre at all. I find they don't give good feedback and let go quite quickly......bit like the older michelin pilots. Everyone's definition of fast is different but if you've been riding relatively hard you would be commenting on how they let go not singing their praise. They are an average all round tyre that does nothing well except last a long time imo
Conti TA2.JPG

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Re: 1290 Super Adventure speed wobble

Post by JJay51 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:52 am

Ahh now see that looks like hot smooth tarmac, most of the roads i ride are rough top tarmac in the uk so rarely gets as hot :mrgreen:

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