Airbox issue

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Airbox issue

Post by JJay51 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:04 am

Any of you guys changed your airfilter set up yet?

I fitted a Unifilter kit to mine this weekend as a precaution after reading the stories of dust etc in the airbox.
Glad i did it -

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That was just the rear stack, the bike has 1000 miles of road only riding :o
All back together now with piece of mind that its a flaw thats fixed :mrgreen:

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by 1coolbanana » Thu May 14, 2015 8:50 am

Replacing the air filter here in Oz iis mandatory.
Most dealers are fitting the Unifilters straight off the floor new after quite a few wrecked engines from 2013/14.
Its an absolute must if you plan on keeping it. :shock:
It really is a major flaw and affecting resale of the 1190's badly.

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by Roadhawg » Sun May 24, 2015 6:19 pm

Mine has the DNA filter fitted by the dealer as a "recall" but i'm stressing that it's not enough. I'll probably open it all up this weekend and look for any dust intrusion.

Is that a 2014 or 2015 bike?

EDIT, sorry I see its a 2014....same as mine :shock:

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by JJay51 » Sun May 24, 2015 8:16 pm

Yup is a 2014, the perceived weak point is the lid of the airbox not sealing fully so i'm hoping the unifilter has done the trick, i'll pull it apart again in a few weeks to check if its now ok.

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by kevxtx » Sun May 24, 2015 10:57 pm

Any photo's of the front of the inside of the air box by the filter & intakes, the fixed air box has a bridge moulded in the centre part of the air box to support the filter, the older 2014 air box that were leaking did not have this bridge.

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by JJay51 » Sun May 24, 2015 11:40 pm

Not an actual pic of mine but this is the one you mean and to be honest i can't remember if mine is the same as this one :oops: -

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by kevxtx » Sun May 24, 2015 11:45 pm

Yip that is the rib in the centre of the photo.

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by Roadhawg » Fri May 29, 2015 6:03 pm

Shit!!
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I'm seriously considering just sending this bike back and requesting a full refund. This was bought from a dealer "No sir, the problems were fixed on the 2014 bikes"

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by JJay51 » Fri May 29, 2015 8:05 pm

To be honest i dont think they have sorted the 15's either, i'd just get the dealer to do a compession test then fit the unifilter or the powercell kit

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by Roadhawg » Fri May 29, 2015 10:19 pm

My problem is that this bike has done 14000kms. Who knows how much of that it was sucking dust!?
The bike is FILTHY underneath the tank covers so has obviously been used extensively offroad. The warranty expires in December, so what happens if this dust issue finally causes a failure in January?

Im going to try return it and find a new old stock 2014 and start over with proper dust protection.

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by Roadhawg » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:04 pm

Returned the bike to the dealer I bought it from. Got full Refund.


Found a new old stock 2014 with 30kms on it. It hadn't even been registered yet so technically Im the first owner. :D

Will add Unifilter at the first service.

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by 1coolbanana » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:31 pm

Wow, you are very lucky, there is no way that would happen in Australia. No way a dealer would take the bike back.
Well done. 8-)
Then again, I suppose your gun laws are a little more liberal than here :lol: :lol:

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by Roadhawg » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:32 am

1coolbanana wrote:Wow, you are very lucky, there is no way that would happen in Australia. No way a dealer would take the bike back.
Well done. 8-)
Then again, I suppose your gun laws are a little more liberal than here :lol: :lol:
Look, I sent them photos of the condition of the airbox, proved I had only done 320km on the bike and it had only been in my possession for 5 days. There's something called the "Consumer Protection Act" here which offers a 5working day "cooling off period" where a purchase may be returned, but also an "Implied 6 month warranty" that the product must be useable for a reasonable period of time. As the bike had a fair bit of mileage with that problem already I had no idea whether it would need an engine rebuild in the coming year so I requested the refund. They obviously tried to save the deal by offering to get anything fixed under warranty but I dont want a bike that's had engine work done already by 14000kms.

No need for gun violence in the end haha :lol:

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by nick280 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:07 pm

Opened up my air box tonight, the bikes nearly done 10k miles. I have a slight infestation of dust on my flaps!! The air box looks generally clean but with the flaps getting wet while riding (this is getting worse), the dust is sticking to them when they're open.

You can see on the last phot where I wiped my finger across the rear flap.

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So, I need a fix. Do I go for the unifilter, or do I go the whole hog and fit a Rottweiler filter? I dont want to spend money twice and would rather go for a more expensive sure fix if that is the case, but the bike needs no more power so if a unifilter is a guaranteed fix the problem, then that's my solution.

On a side note, how do you clean the dust off your flaps without it going in the hole?

Thanks for any advice.
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Re: Airbox issue

Post by JJay51 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:12 pm

Just wipe away what you can with a damp cloth and just hold teh flap down when you do the one side to stop it opening.
Have you considered the powercell system -

http://www.zenoverland.com/ktm-1190-adv ... mance.html

i may yet take the unifilter out and fit these instead when they come back in stock as the unifilter robs some power due to having two sponge filters to suck through.

I havent opened mine up since fitting the uni but will do when i get back from my euro trip in a few weeks time so i'll keep you updated

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by nick280 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:52 pm

I hadn't seen the powercell filters before now. I'm not sure I like the look of those to be honest but thanks for pointing them out.
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Re: Airbox issue

Post by JJay51 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:25 am

They are very popular among the US guys as Powercell are an american co.
There are probably more powercell users than unifilter users over on the advrider forum

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by nick280 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:49 am

I think I'll end up going for the unifilter as the rest are out of stock :-( hopefully it will sort the problem. And thanks for the wee tip on cleaning the flaps :)
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Re: Airbox issue

Post by nick280 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:51 pm

Washed and polished the air box tonight. Like new again :D

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Re: Airbox issue

Post by JJay51 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:10 pm

If you're fitting the Uni i wouldnt fit the snorkel socks as they have been known to fall apart and add yet more restriction to the intake, instead buy the KTM intake mesh socks, i have them on mine and they do the same job

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