faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

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faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by toppo » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:36 pm

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hi had my duke since october last year now 1200 miles on it , but at 600 miles had it serviced , then when bike got up to 1000 miles ish i noticed the bike getting louder , mainly on rear clyd ,, very loud when cold and getting louder , i posted this noise with vid on superduke facebook and loads of responce , and one member told me of a bad batch of oils filters that was made and fitted to some bikes , so i looked at mine and it was fluked all warped andsucked in, so oil startvation had happend and now bike fl uked , in dealers at the mins stripped down, im pushing for a replacemnt engine as other parts of it could also be damaged that u cannot ere , i think KTM should of done a fast recall ,, as ive noticed more people getting cam chain noise how mine started ,, go check facebook superduke 1290 ive put pics there ,, but just go and get a new filter from dealer now or put k&n one in it ,, will save u a lot of pain in the end

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by dbroaddu » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:58 pm

WOW that is scary!!!.... man I just ordered a new OEM filter for the first service on my new one... should we all be considering something like this just to be on the safe side???

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by toppo » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:39 pm

ive been reading some ktm 1290 owners use k&n oil filters for better flow and seem to work well , so i would prob get pne of them ktm ones are s h i t
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also they use castrol power 10/50 oil ?

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by bodypilot » Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:55 pm

I just got one from there, it's a really fine mesh and well made. Now to fit it without letting my oil piss all over the garage floor. Any tips?
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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by toppo » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:43 pm

ive put catsrol r 10/50 and k&n in and defo better , also gear change well smoother , but after all the probs i ere peps on superduke forums having with there 1290 , ive just traded mine in for a new crb1000rr fireblade, just had enough of the s h it y dealers worming out of repairs and they dont even no wat there doing with our bikes :roll:
i got the 1290 because dealers was not far from me , but there a joke .

had a cbr600rr before and the only time i went there was for the first 2 services , lol... with the 1290 ktm im always there ,they even made me a room in the back ,and customers think i work there :o

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by bodypilot » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:02 am

Super easy to swap out the OEM for the Scotts filter, hardly any oil came out so only had to top up 200ml.

My paper filter looked OK with no signs of deformation after 1200 miles.

I feel much better with the Scotts in the engine, it won't fail like a paper one could. So nicely made that it felt a shame to hide it inside the motor!
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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by dmacl » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:33 am

toppo wrote: a new crb1000rr fireblade
If it's an ABS version be ready for 4+ hours of bleeding the brakes... (That's dealer time. Mate of mine took 12 hours to do his himself)

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by toppo » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:51 am

no ive gone for no frills bike this time old skool , ktm cannot make a reliable bike , unless 2 stroke ,,but even the new 300 exc i just brout had loose bolts WTF .
14k for duke and loads of probs is a joke, read up on superduke.net warrantry probs its getting big in there lol

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by dmacl » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:30 am

toppo wrote: 14k for duke and loads of probs is a joke, read up on superduke.net warrantry probs its getting big in there lol
Remember that online forums will show the worst of any bike. Mine's done 10k hard miles pulling my fat arse around the country with no major issues.

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by dflowers » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:32 pm

toppo wrote:no ive gone for no frills bike this time old skool , ktm cannot make a reliable bike , unless 2 stroke ,,but even the new 300 exc i just brout had loose bolts WTF .
14k for duke and loads of probs is a joke, read up on superduke.net warrantry probs its getting big in there lol
Sorry for your problems, and no doubt I would feel the same too if my bike was like yours. Had my 1290 almost a year with zero issues. Also have a 2014 KTM 500 EXC for over a year and no issues with that one either.

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by dbroaddu » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:44 pm

Here ya have it fellas.... 17K ain't what it used to be...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNTjZs_yMHI

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by dbroaddu » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:11 pm

Spoke with the dealer and here's the follow up ... http://youtu.be/vylozsoKXxc

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by Oupy » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:38 am

Is the oil filter changed as part of the first service (1000km)?

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by dbroaddu » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:07 am

Yes. Per the manual, the service schedule calls for oil and filter change at 1000km.

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by Don 1290 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:31 pm

Sorry to hear about these freak and unfortunate problems. There were a batch of dodgy filters that 'tweaked' at the seams. I did oil changes at 50, 250, 500 and 1000 when running in the engine, all filters I checked by hand before they were paid for. This next bit is going to sting. Yes it is an expensive bike, yes it sucks that such things happen but all manufacturers have issues with products, cars, planes, boats, pushbikes and yes motorbikes. Manufacturers know this and that is why they offer a warranty, on top of that you have consumer law protections in place for products that are 'unfit for purpose' and other varying inadequacies. If you still don't think this is good enough then get rid of the bike and cut your losses but be sure to know that whatever replacement you get will not feel as exhilarating as the 1290 (subjective, but most likely true :lol: ).

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by dflowers » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:40 am

Pulled my OEM filter that I assume was changed at 600 miles. Bike now has 3800 miles. I replaced this filter with a Scott's stainless. For the most part, looks like my filter was OK. I tried to squash the filter and screen with my fingers and had a hard time bending the inner metal support screen for the filter material, so that seems pretty stout. Not sure what oil pressure is but would take a lot to bend or collapse a filter, so I am wondering if the assembly tech for your bike did something at the factory.
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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by dbroaddu » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:03 am

If perforated metal core wasn't smashed together in your filter you should be fine.

In my example, the way I see it, it comes down to one of two things a bad filter (hopefully this it) or worse, something engine based causing major pressure ( ie bypass valve issue or something.... YIKES!)

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by dflowers » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:13 pm

Might be interesting to put a new OEM filter in the bike and see what happens. I doubt you want to use your bike as a test mule though.....

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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by maddcapp1 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:31 pm

Here is my addition. I got the low oil pressure light at 180 miles. Yes 180. Stopped the bike within 3 blocks of noticing it. Let it sit for about 2 hrs and checked to see if the indication was still there. It wasn't. Rode the bike home and did an oil change. Filter was mostly round but extremely dirty. There was very little debris on the magnets and screens. The oil was completely nasty. I changed it out and installed a k&n filter and plan on changing it again at the first service interval. Unless I get the warning light again then it's off the get the runaround from the dealer. I will post a pic of the oil once I can resize it.
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Re: faulty oil filters fitted to our 1290 dukes

Post by dbroaddu » Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:04 am

Wow! Is water in that oil???? KTM WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!?!

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