Gel seat - any difference?

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Gel seat - any difference?

Post by bagpuss » Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:25 pm

So I splashed out on the Gel seat. After about 1000km on it and 3000km on the standard one I actually think the standard one is more comfortable.. It just seems harder, nothing more. Anyone else with experience?

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Re: Gel seat - any difference?

Post by DILLIGAF » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:18 am

No, I have the standard seat, but I was thinking about buying the gel one until I read this

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Post by Guy Jinbaiquerre » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:30 am

bagpuss wrote:So I splashed out on the Gel seat. After about 1000km on it and 3000km on the standard one I actually think the standard one is more comfortable.. It just seems harder, nothing more. Anyone else with experience?
I agree completely. Bought the gel seat and it is WORSE than the stock seat. It's like I'm sitting on a wooden plank. :evil:

I have a Renazco seat on order, but there is a waiting list. Should have it in June or so; I'll report on how it feels after I get it and try it out.
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Re: Gel seat - any difference?

Post by MARV » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:24 pm

Out here in the GREAT northwest,We have the seat wizard. RICH'S custom seats in Kingston, wa.

I have spent a lot of money with him. And I have been on the other Custom made seats that are generic.

You are wasting your money if you DO NOT have a seat expert like Rich make your seat fit you.

The stock seat only needs a Leather cover put on it. Period.

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Post by weston » Mon May 03, 2010 2:44 am

Up until the SMT, I've always shied away from KTM because I have a 29" inseam, and couldn't find a seat height I could live with.
Now that I have it, I'd still like it lower, so my question is: has anyone ever figuerd out to lower the stock seat height lower?

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Post by Guy Jinbaiquerre » Sun May 30, 2010 10:52 am

Man up, Weston. :lol:

I've got a 29" inseam too, and the SMT is really no problem. You just need to get used to it if you are coming from a bike with a much lower seat height. You can do it!
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Post by Guy Jinbaiquerre » Sun May 30, 2010 10:54 am

To answer your question, though, yes it is possible to lower the seat height by dropping the fork tubes in the clamps and putting in shorter suspension front and rear. But then you are compromising the performance of the bike. Better to just get used to the standard seat height, IMHO.
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Post by weston » Sun May 30, 2010 6:16 pm

Thanks. I appreciate the encouragment.

It's a great bike in so many ways (now one of 10 in my garage), so it's discouraging to have this awkward height problem.

FYI, as an experiment I sent the stock seat to Sargent who was able to lower it about 5/8" without making it feel like you're just sitting on the pan. I haven't tried an all day ride yet, but I think the change is an improvement, so indeed, this problem appears to be manageable.

But if KTM is listening, one inch really makes a difference: it can't be that difficult to engineer this with the T's basically street oriented suspension.

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Post by Guy Jinbaiquerre » Sun May 30, 2010 10:53 pm

Can you post a photo of your Sargent seat? It would be nice to see what they did with it. I'll post up my Renazco (should have it in about 2 weeks or so) and we can get a custom seat gallery going.
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Post by JimmyDean » Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:04 am

Only 400 miles on my new SMT- hope this seat breaks in. I was eyeing the gel seat too, but now not so sure
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Re: Gel seat - any difference?

Post by MARV » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:11 pm

don't waste the money on the gel seat.
I have 1500 miles on, and the first ride was almost 600 miles, I love the seat.
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Post by staffs » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:05 pm

My speed triple had a very hard uncomfortable seat and after a 100 miles it hurt, I was going to get a gel seat for this but after investigating further decided it would be no better. What I did discover though and will try is what the Aussies do and that is to put a numner on. This is a thinish sheep skin or fake sheep skin cover on top of the original seat, as it happens I spied one being used on this forum. Find "a couple of pictures of nowhere" that smt has one fitted.
Otherwise you will have to get your buttocks toned up and save yourselves some money. :lol:

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Post by T-Mac » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:52 am

Sheep skin on SMT :lol:

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Post by Cookie » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:16 pm

Dont knock it till you have tried it :lol:
T is for Travel after all.

Mate who i go touring with rode from England to Goa a few years back on a BM single and picked up a sheepskin on the way. Swears by it and still uses it now on longer days in the saddle on an 800GS. We did Monza WSB earlier in the year (just pre SMT for me) and came back the long way through Austria etc. The 800's seat is no great shakes but with the sheepy on he had no problems with full days. Biggest prob is you have to take it off when it starts raining, but we tend to give up early and retire to the bar if it looks like a full rain day.

For what it costs definitly worth a try.

My other half lets me know how uncomfortable pillion seats are fairly regularly so I bought an Airhawk inflatable seat pad for her. Flippin brilliant, extended the range before my ears start to hurt no end. Not cheap for what it is but:
- only needs to be fitted for longer trips
- can be relocated from bike to bike
- I can borrow it for the riders perch when off touring on my own
- you can also use it at race circuits with butt killing grandstand seats

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Post by T-Mac » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:49 pm

Hi Cookie,

Could you post a photo of your SMT with Airhawk mounted on? I'm just curious as I've never seen it.

Isn't it uncomfortable when you have to change body position fast (left to right to left ...)?

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Post by Cookie » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:11 pm

H T-Mac

Not good at photos on the net and this probably doesnt show what you want, but here go's

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Might do better looking on the Airhawk website.

Its actually the small pillion pad and measures about 9" x 11" but can be used on the riders seat of dual sports or any other bike actually. Comes with some light elasticated straps for holding it in position but you dont actually need to use them, the underside is rubberised and grips in position on the seat. The tops a cotton type material that breathes to keep your important places cool and can move about on.

To be honest I would only use it on a long journey. Scratching about or nipping into town, doesnt matter if the standard seats a bit of a plank. I dont do the hanging off thing (old enough that it wasnt the fashion when I started) so dont tend to move rapidly from side to side.

Havent ridden the SMT with it on the riders seat yet but pillion is well impressed.

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Post by staffs » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:24 pm

You could try a whoopee cushion and have a larf at the same time :shock: :o :lol:

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Post by JimmyDean » Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:40 am

So before my 1721 mile trip I broke down and bought the ergo seat. And it was a plank like everyone suggested, but it did seem to break- in after 1200miles...or maybe my a$$ did.
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Post by staffs » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:27 pm

I have tried the sheepskin and have to say it works. I did only a 100 miles and did not once notice any pressure points, its like a cushion of h(air) under yer bum. I have a trip to Budapest in september, my furry friend is comming with me.

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Post by VMac » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:00 pm

Just finished a solo trip to Nova Scotia - including one leg of the journey where I punched out 1300km in a day. I found the stock seat to be one of the best I have owned - I had a Renazco on my 950 Adventure and thought I'd need one for the SMT but I don't think I'll need it. Brought my Airhawk along just in case but never used it. I found the bike overall to be a more comfortable platform than a BMW K1200 GT that I just got rid of. Go figure.
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