SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

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SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by max7 » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:22 pm

Right all, let's settle this thing. This thread will decide (once and for all) what we think of the SMT's standard seat. If you think it's rubbish, tell us in one word what you think IS great?!

So what do you say?
I say...

Standard seat:

RUBBISH!

SMT Ergo gel seat:

GREAT! (best I've ever used on any bike, ever)
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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by White Knight » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:50 am

This should be a poll!

I find mine quite good. Could be better, hot with the stock exhaust.
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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by max7 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:14 am

I completely agree, but couldn't work out how to create one - so did this instead! :? Will be interesting to get a concensus on this - seems most peeps in the UK think the std seat is great, I thought it was utterly awful!

Do we have to contact admin for a poll to be created?
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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by beyond » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:17 am

Standard seat: Uncomfortable
Gel seat: More comfortable
You always have a choice

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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by BearG » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:56 am

SMT seat: didn't fit me
SMR seat: great!

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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by Rangoonruns » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:12 pm

Here is the truth behind (get it??) the two seats

All those that have shelled out a lot of coin for a gel seat will say the stock is rubbish to justify the gel ergo one.
All those who are tight arses (me included) say the stocker is fine for all day riding

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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by White Knight » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:54 pm

I hear the gel absorbs and holds heat. I am not so sure I could deal with anything hotter.
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Post by Stu46Duke » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:26 pm

No problems here. I find the standard seat comfy enough for all day rides.
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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by max7 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:22 am

Rangoonruns wrote:All those that have shelled out a lot of coin for a gel seat will say the stock is rubbish to justify the gel ergo one.
All those who are tight arses (me included) say the stocker is fine for all day riding
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Rangoon, I don't doubt the truth behind your theory mate....there's undoubtedly some cognitive bias involved in buying any aftermarket accessory for a bike. Something like, "I've spent the money, therefore I have to justify it by saying it is good".

Falls flat in my case tho. The standard seat on the demonstrator was fine (was it really standard I wonder?). I took an extended demo specfically to test the bike's long(er) range dynamics e.g. a single ride of about 120 miles.

From the second I picked my new bike up, the seat felt bad. Pressure points all over the place, I couldn't ride if for more than an hour without stopping and walking around. Luckily for me, the bike came with an accessory scuff on the saddle cover ( ;) ), pointed out to the dealer when I picked it up. I'd never even sat on it at that point! He said the seat could be replaced at first service.

So when it was replaced, I asked them to use the ergo seat and paid the difference. I haggled and got it for £30. It's transformed the bike for me - no bias or anything, just plain physical difference.
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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by Nico_de_Nirvi » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:30 am

Also would be good to know the riders size...I think it matters too.

I am 6' 3" (189cm) and gear on 265lbs (120kg).

Standard seat does not feel as comfortable as I would like...so I am reading this chain with great interest.
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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by max7 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:11 pm

5'7"
About 95kgs fully kitted

Short, fat and hairy :lol:
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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by Lalo » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:43 pm

After a long days ride, the seat leaves much to be desired.

I come from riding dirt bikes so sitting down isn't normal. Interested in the gel seat, but would rather test one first before I buy.
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Post by jonty » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:09 am

Pretty convinced height and weight have a huge part to play in this.

Im 5ft 8 and about 83kg and it fits me perfectly.

I tend to move forward to the "balls on he tank" position for ragging the arse off it riding, and move back in the seat for cruising.

The bike in general fits me well.
Sure the injection is harsh and when you are tired it can be a pain, but riding home from Belfast in torrential rain and massive traffic 2 days ago , the bike was perfect.
Its by far the best bike I have ever ridden in wet/crap weather.

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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by dancerdave » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:35 pm

TBH I find the seat to be fine. You've only got 150ish miles till the light comes on and then you have stop to refuel anyway. Maybe its a problem in them BIG countries but not here in Northern Ireland. ;)
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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by jonty » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:22 pm

and with our twisty roads you tend to be all over the bike anyway.

Big roads in countries with big skies might be different.

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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by max7 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:18 am

Deffo agree that the "type of riding" you do plays a part here. Just come back from a 2.5k miles tour of the Swiss Alps - the ride down there was a mix of fast French D roads and Peage motorways. This was when saddle soreness crept in, 2 x 400 mile days just sitting there is bloody tough on the ass cheeks!

Once we got into the Alps, 300 mile days were fine - cos you're not just sitting there, you're moving around all over the bike.

So personally, I'd agree that riding type is a factor in whether or not you find the std seat ok (or not). That said, I still can't get away from the fact that with the standard seat - for me anyhoo - one hour of riding Sussex twisties had my backside screaming. The gel seat cured this completely and over the course of the 2.5k Swiss trip was as good as any saddle I've ever used.
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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by Lalo » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:44 pm

All my long distance rider friends say this is the seat upgrade to go with if you plan on riding for days.

http://www.day-long.com/

Anyone have any experience with them on the SMT or other bikes?

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Post by Lalo » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:46 pm

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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by jonty » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:46 pm

that`s not a seat, its a sofa!

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Re: SMT Standard seat: Great or rubbish?

Post by White Knight » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:49 pm

Russel make some killer seats. Your friend is right. They just do not come any more comfortable. I have had 2. One on my last Versys, and one on a BMW K75. Both were exceptionally comfortable. I could ride all day and not be bothered one bit, and i have a delicate hiney. There really is nothing like them. They are pricey, but if you want the ultimate comfort... they are it.
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