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hard pannier choices

Post by jaselo » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:24 pm

I thought I'd share my recent deliberations on hard luggage for my 2010 SMT - I'll be taking a trip from Edinburgh to Munich in April and wanted some decent panniers. Clearly I need to get out more and just ride, but the weather has been a bit inclement up North recently... When I bought the bike I declined the OEM panniers and got the SW-Motech Evo frames installed instead as I had some Buell Ulysses panniers (Hepco and Becker Journey) - however, these panniers stick out a mile and are side-loaders (clam shell). So, I mocked up an old Hepco and Becker Alu Standard pannier (35L, 485/350/240 mm) to my Evo frame to see how aluminium panniers would look and I liked it and thought that the 240mm width was the limit of acceptability (I have a 45L version too, but this is far to wide - time to get them on ebay...). I decided against soft luggage (Wolfman, Kriega, Enduristan, Magadan) as I don't ride off-road.
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Hepco and Becker Alu Standard (wired) on a SMT
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After a lot of searching and reading (lots of great information here and on Advrider in particular), it seemed my choices were:

Hepco and Becker Xplorer 30L, 480/380/220 mm, mixture of anodised aluminium (1.5 mm)/shock resistant plastic, top-loading removable lid (although I think you have to lift it past vertical), Al/black plastic or black/black, ~£450 (black). Liked the look of these and would fit straight on to my SW-Motech frames, but was worried about the 'shock-resistant' plastic - tempting though...
http://neu.hepco-becker.de/Web/Produkte ... language=2

KTM Zega Pro 38L, 440/390/220 mm, 1.5 mm Al, silver. Probably the bees knees of aluminum panniers, removable lid, prohibitively expensive if bought directly from Touratech (~£360 per pannier :shock: ), but better with KTM badging (£222 per pannier with pre-assembled mounting system). However, they do not fit the SW-Motech frames, and no frames are available from the usual companies except from Holan (below).
http://www.gear4motorcycles.co.uk/?i=40 ... mpaign=rss

Holan Nomada Pro 31L, 440/380/200, 2 mm Al, silver, grey or black (powder coated), removable lid. Nice looking panniers - Holan used to make the Touratech Zega. They make a frame for the SMT that will fit either Nomada or Zega Pro panniers (using a standard 'puck' system). However, the frame is not removable, unlike the SW-Motech Evo, and I don't want the extra tubing if I can help it. A reasonable deal though at 630 euro (ca. £530) for panniers, frame, mounting kit and locks.
http://holan.pl/en/catalog/24/181/407/0/KTM_990_SM_SMT

GlobeScout XPAN35 35L, 440/390/220, 1.5 mm AlMg alloy, removable lid. Company used by the Turkish Dakar team. Requires a new frame (e.g. Holan) as they use a similar mounting system although they did say that they have used Givi frames and modified them to fit their panniers, ~630 euro (ca. £530) for black version (anodised).
http://www.globescout.de/home.php?cat=2

Trax Evo 37L, 490/370/230, 1.5 mm AlMg alloy, hinged top loading lid. Designed to fit my frames (would need adapter kit and locks!) and easy on/off. Best prices from KTM dealers, plus the added benefit of KTM badging, ca. £490 all in with discount.
http://www.motohaus.com/acatalog/New_Tr ... ggage.html

Also looked at Alpos, G+G, Metal Mule, and Ardcases to name a few but I thought they looked too utilitarian (they are more 'competitively priced' but would require new frames), plus Givi Trekker 33N (which would fit the SW-Motech frames nicely) but I thought they looked too big on the SMT (526/411/230 mm) and I was not too sure about the clam shell/top loader mix. I do have a Givi Maxia 52L top box though, and the possibility of mounting these as either a pannier or top box was tempting.

So, having gone round in circles for a while as all of this can get a bit subjective, I took the plunge and have gone for the Trax Evo panniers, primarily as they suit the lines of the bike, I can use my existing frames (which I can remove in 30 seconds), they're not too wide, they have a good reputation, plus it's great dealing with Alan at Drysdales in Perth. Hopefully happy travelling!

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Re: hard pannier choices

Post by katum_smt » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:38 am

I have the TRAX EVO boxes and brackets for both my SMT and Ducati MTS1200 they are great and in future i only need to get the brackets for the next bike and keep the same panniers and topbox
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Re: hard pannier choices

Post by ogden » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:44 pm

I got a full set of the KTM-branded Trax luggage thrown in with the bike. Only downside whatsoever is the bike is rather wide with the panniers fitted.

I'd recommend getting the optional handles to go with the panniers, they make life a lot easier.
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Post by ogden » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:45 pm

katum_smt wrote:I have the TRAX EVO boxes and brackets for both my SMT and Ducati MTS1200 they are great and in future i only need to get the brackets for the next bike and keep the same panniers and topbox
...so long as the exhaust doesn't get in the way. Do they not get a bit hot on the Mutley? The Ducati panniers have a cutout for gas flow.
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Post by Scutty » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:00 pm

I also have the Trax panniers and rate them, very waterproof (latest version) and fully recommend the handles and the nice inner bags (saves unlocking the big metal boxes and dragging them around hotels/ferries).
I have just ordered the topbox as well to use for commuting (despite the fact I abhor top boxes).

Og is right though, they are wide - just remember you have them on when lane splitting! (they are only slightly wider than the bars)
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Re: hard pannier choices

Post by katum_smt » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:51 am

ogden wrote:
katum_smt wrote:I have the TRAX EVO boxes and brackets for both my SMT and Ducati MTS1200 they are great and in future i only need to get the brackets for the next bike and keep the same panniers and topbox
...so long as the exhaust doesn't get in the way. Do they not get a bit hot on the Mutley? The Ducati panniers have a cutout for gas flow.
My Mutley has the Full Arrow system and the boxes do not get hot at all, although my mate that has the Termi system (mutley) does suffer from "hotbox"
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Post by supertoon » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:48 pm

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I am on my second set of Pelican hard cases with liners. I mounted them on sw motech quick-release side racks, this allows me to remove the racks and run with the KTM soft bags that came with the bike. So far so good, they have proved to be waterproof and the matte black fits the bike as well.

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Post by jaselo » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:51 pm

Did you just bolt them on the frames or are they removable? I looked at Pelican cases and similar, but didn't fancy the clam shell and wanted top loaders (I seem to remember that the 1450 cases are top loaders, but pretty high and wide). Look good and sturdy though. Appreciate all of your responses about the Trax panniers - as long as they don't extend too far outside the bar width, then that's OK with me!

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Post by katum_smt » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:22 am

Top Loading TRAX boxes with carry handles

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Post by Scutty » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:37 pm

I think a good fabricator could save at least an inch or 2 per side if you remove the soft bag holders and modify the Trax frames
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Post by supertoon » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:14 am

jaselo wrote:Did you just bolt them on the frames or are they removable? I looked at Pelican cases and similar, but didn't fancy the clam shell and wanted top loaders (I seem to remember that the 1450 cases are top loaders, but pretty high and wide). Look good and sturdy though. Appreciate all of your responses about the Trax panniers - as long as they don't extend too far outside the bar width, then that's OK with me!
The key to liking the side opening is the liners. Before, you open the case for the border official and all your shite spills onto the ground. And yes, they are bolted to the side racks, again with the liners, when we arrive at our destination I leave the boxes on the bike and carry in the liners. Much prefer this to carrying in a dirty case and making a mess in the room. Also, the empty boxes are handy for that beer run after you get settled in! I looked at the top loader, but didn't like the appearance and they made the bike too wide. The pelicans were 115$ each and have a lifetime guarantee.

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Re: hard pannier choices

Post by Taseuropas » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:00 pm

Could somebody tell me if the touratech frames of the 990 adventure would fit at my SMT?

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