Time for an Oil & Filter change

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by kevxtx » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:10 am

Sounds like a helicoil might be needed.

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Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by Gula » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:36 am

You wouldn't happen to jave the torque values on how tight all the bolts have to be tightened back down to?

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by Zombie Master » Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:23 am

Thanx! I haven't done an oil change yet but soon.

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by Wezza83 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:06 pm

I changed my oil yesterday. I know the manual says put 3.2 quarts of oil into the bike and then start the bike up and wait until it warns up (6 bars). The manual says to stand the bike upright and to add oil while the bike is warm. How much oil are you guys adding while its warm? I put almost the rest of the 4 liter bottle in the bike and was still under the full line on the check window. Is that normal? It was 90+ when I did the oil change.

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Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by LenFerguson » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:49 am

You will find that if you have put in 4 liters it will be over filled, but only slightly. Take it for a quick spin, stop and wait a minute or two and then check the oil level. My bet is that it will be over the full line.

I just put in 3.8 liters and take it for a ride and check after it has been running for a little. make sure you rest for a few minutes and then check it. For me spot on every time after the run but does look under when just sitting in the shed.
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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by Sweetwater » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:30 pm

Thanks to the OP for his great documentation of the SMT oil change.

I need to tell you that it's a breeze compared to the 990 Adventure oil change which has the left gas tank over the upper oil reservoir.

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by Motoproponent » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:34 pm

Wish I would have read this before I did my first oil change a couple years ago. I didn't hold the hose fitting on the oil tank tight enough when I undid the oil line. One thing led to another and I discovered how the hard steel threads in the fitting will totally mangle the threads in the soft aluminum of the oil tank.

I couldn't make it stop leaking and ended up getting a new oil tank and line.

Later I was able to determine that I could have just taken the oil tank to a machine shop for a thread repair. :cry:

So any way I have an extra oil tank that will be like new if you want to rock some helicoil in that sucker. I'll let it go cheap :mrgreen:
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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by Tooltech » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:51 pm

2012 SMT 990...My bike has been in my garage for the winter. Yesterday was nice so I went for a ride. I noticed that the engine oil was just barely showing at the bottom of the sight window ( with bike upright ). I added oil until I got to the 2/3 full mark in the sight window ( with bike upright ). The bike ran perfectly and the ride was wonderful ( today it raining...again :shock: ). When I got home I noticed that the sight window was completely filled up with oil ( with bike upright ). I removed the filler cap and the oil was at the top of the filler hole. I do not understand how the oil got so high ( I know I added oil however, not past the upper mark ). I removed the excess oil to arrive at mid level between the marks ( with bike upright ). I let the bike completely cool, then started the bike and achieved normal temp, shut down and waited 3-4 minutes. The oil level was between the two sight window marks ( with bike upright ).

What was going on with the low oil level after setting for the winter? Did I cause engine damage by running a very high oil level for 100 ( under 6,000 RPMs ) miles? The bike does not smoke nor does it make any abnormal engine noise. The bike looks to be totally normal. What do you think caused my oil crisis? :o
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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by kevxtx » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:00 pm

The oil would have drained from the tank into the motor over time, to check the oil level correctly you need to ride the bike until the oil levels equalize, there should be no damage on your bike due to over filling, but one has to be very careful as over filling can cause problems if it blows the excess oil up through the engine breather into the intake & pours smoke through the exhaust system damaging the cats + it adds more pressure in the engine crank cases & can cause oil leaks from seals & gaskets.

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by Tooltech » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:56 pm

Thanks for the reply...I feel better about my error. My SMT 990 is one of the best bikes I have ever owned. I am sorry to see that KTM has discontinued them. :(
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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by spen » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:26 pm

just to add to this post the previous owned used a 10 /40 fully synthetic oil I see the book gives a 5 /40 or 10 /40 any thoughts ,I live in the UK so it always rains and is always cold :cry:

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by Sweetwater » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:12 pm

I will give you my answer....just to watch the oil wars proceed.

The KTM motor is a higher strung motor than many others. My 990's (SMT and Adv) get 20-50W synthetic. My 690E has gotten 10-50W or 10-60W synthetic. I can tell the difference in the 690E, it sounds smoother to my ear with the heavier weight 10-60W. I have no problem running my 1150GS with 10-40W during our winter in the rockymountain west. Unless you are at or below freezing, I would not run a lightweight 5W in any motorcycle. I have a friend who's an aerospace engineer with many discussions on this topic and I can tell you that too thin of an oil is still better than no oil but it does not protect a higher revving, hotter running engine to the same degree. Let the flames begin........YMMV........... :twisted:

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by ridon29 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:31 pm

Thanks for an excellent post with great photos and easy to follow directions... brilliant, got oil changed tonight.

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by mtk » Fri May 29, 2015 7:27 am

Thanks for the post mate.

A tip: use a magnet to remove the oil filter 8-)

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by Thirdway » Fri May 29, 2015 9:54 am

Sweetwater wrote:I will give you my answer....just to watch the oil wars proceed.

The KTM motor is a higher strung motor than many others. My 990's (SMT and Adv) get 20-50W synthetic. My 690E has gotten 10-50W or 10-60W synthetic. I can tell the difference in the 690E, it sounds smoother to my ear with the heavier weight 10-60W. I have no problem running my 1150GS with 10-40W during our winter in the rockymountain west. Unless you are at or below freezing, I would not run a lightweight 5W in any motorcycle. I have a friend who's an aerospace engineer with many discussions on this topic and I can tell you that too thin of an oil is still better than no oil but it does not protect a higher revving, hotter running engine to the same degree. Let the flames begin........YMMV........... :twisted:
I'm not sure that makes any sense. The advantage of the lower weight oil when cold is faster circulation which reduces wear. As the engine gets hotter the oil has to retain a consistency in order to protect the engine. The upper number is the one concerned with consistency of lubrication when the engine is very hot. So, a higher number gives the capacity to cope with higher temperatures, the lower gives consistency at equally lower temperatures. So, it's best to use the lowest and highest number such as 5/60 ( if it exists). 20/50 would be fine if ambient temperatures are high, but equally there would be no issue with 5/50 at those temperatures, but you would be throwing money away on a more expensive oil for no reason.

It's true that any oil is better than no oil, but better is actually the 5/50 and not the 10/50 all things being equal. It's easy to test that theory, because it's a damned sight more expensive.

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by Lostwiththewind » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:14 am

Awesome... I'm on my first oil change this coming week and stumbled across this. Thankful for the straightforward instructions with pictures and NO confusion! :)

Thank you! Bookmarked as well!

Now, to find someone who knows about the Navigon Navigation App... Or where to post questions about that.

Thanks again.

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by Sweetwater » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:19 pm

The point of the viscosity discussion is that ambient air temps only apply on start up. These are high strung racing motors that run hot and the X-60 is better for them because of that simple fact.

As you were...smoke 'em if you've got 'em....

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by jmh » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:44 pm

Good guide.
2 questions.

Cleaning the strainer and screen, how do you clean them?

It doesn't say in the repair manual either. Thanks.

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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by adcolor » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:46 am

Any sort of solvent. Just as long as it's clean and dry when you install them.
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Re: Time for an Oil & Filter change

Post by Magic Wand » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:32 pm

Hi
My bike is placed in the basement (in a storehouse) during winter time.
I can´t take it out (up stairs) until end of March, and I want to do a oil and filter change right now.
Do I HAVE to warm up the engine before draining the old oil out?
/M

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