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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by ogden » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:04 am

r0bb0mc wrote:I'm planning on replacing chain\sprockets at 20K, and fitting a 16T front. I don't know about you guys, but 6th gear is a waste with stock gearing. It feels like I'm laboring the engine everytime I use 6th gear. Maybe if cruising on or above 160Klm, but at 130 - 140klm it's not good..
Same here. On anything but high speed motorway cruising (95mph+), 6th gear is completely useless, so I end up riding along in 5th rather than making full use of the gears available. That probably goes some way to explaining the fairly dire fuel economy.

A 16T front sprocket is on my shopping list for the 3rd (9k miles) service - I don't like the idea of throwing away perfectly serviceable parts, but if the parts in question are compromising the bike then it's not a major issue.
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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by v2rider » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:55 am

Definitey worth dropping a tooth on the drive sprocket, the lower ratio suits it a lot better, especially in slow traffic (less riding the clutch) and in top gear. I changed mine shortly after I bought it in 2009, and won't go back to stock ratios. KTM offers both plain and damped sprockets. The damped ones have a plastic disk stuck to the back that quietens the chain noise. If you put a plain sprocket on it you will hear the chain more - your call whether that's a bad thing or not.

I seem to go through rubber very quickly compared to some of you. I have about 17000km on the clock and am on my 5th set of tyres. I ran the first 2 sets (OEM Contis and Pilot Powers) at the recommended 34psi, and didn't like the vague feel. From the third set on (Bridgestone BT-016, Dunlop Qualifier RR, Metzeler K5 Interact) I've run at 36/42, and much prefer the feel. I didn't like the first two sets of tyres, but that may have had more to do with the pressures than the tyres. My favourite tyres so far are the Dunlops.

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by ogden » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:27 pm

v2rider wrote:I seem to go through rubber very quickly compared to some of you. I have about 17000km on the clock and am on my 5th set of tyres. ... OEM Contis and Pilot Powers... Bridgestone BT-016, Dunlop Qualifier RR, Metzeler K5 Interact
The tyre life is entirely down to the kind of tyres you're using. If you use soft tyres (such as 016s) they're going to wear out quickly compared to someone else using harder tyres (such as PR3s). I demolished the OEM Contis on my SMT in under 2000 miles, whereas I'm getting 4-5000 from PR3s, and even then only replacing them because they're a bit squared off, not because they're down to the carcass.

I gave up buying soft tyres for the road years ago. They wear out quickly, square off if you do serious miles on them, and the level of additional grip on offer just isn't really that critical on the road. I've gone as fast on PR3s, on both the SMT and the GSXR1000 before that, as is even vaguely sensible, and the only time I ever find myself wishing for more grip is when I'm being seriously hamfisted with the throttle on the gixer. On the SMT, with barely over a hundred ponies on tap, it's just not an issue.

Tyre manufacturers love us thinking we need super-sticky tyres on the road, because it leaves us paying premium prices two or three times as often as necessary. On the track, where you can really use it, I'll take all the grip I can get. But on the road it's less of an issue.

That said, it's mostly a mind trick. If having tyres that start 01 instead of 02, or have Power, Race or Qualifier in the name instead of Road, lets you believe you have the grip you need to ride with confidence, then it's money well spent.

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by LenFerguson » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:09 am

Hey Rob if it is not koto late have a look at the Wings cans, I got them and love em. Great sound, looks and now with the motohooligan airbox lots of extra get up as well ;)

Go for the 16 tooth ASAP. You will love the way it changes your bike.

Looks like you love the bike to, running up lots of Kim's.. We are looking to head down your way and go through the mountains in late October heading towards the GP. Will the roads be good at this time form your experience?

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by morgs » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:27 pm

LenFerguson wrote:Hey Rob if it is not koto late have a look at the Wings cans, I got them and love em. Great sound, looks and now with the motohooligan airbox lots of extra get up as well ;)

Go for the 16 tooth ASAP. You will love the way it changes your bike.

Looks like you love the bike to, running up lots of Kim's.. We are looking to head down your way and go through the mountains in late October heading towards the GP. Will the roads be good at this time form your experience?

Thanks mate, Len.

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by LenFerguson » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:39 pm

On as many back roads as possible Ken. We really just suck it and see as we go, choosing roads that we haven't been on before. Always open to suggestions if you know some good roads that we should travel by. You going down as well?
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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by morgs » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:51 pm

LenFerguson wrote:On as many back roads as possible Ken. We really just suck it and see as we go, choosing roads that we haven't been on before. Always open to suggestions if you know some good roads that we should travel by. You going down as well?
Yep, leave Sydney on Tuesday evening with a mate from Brissy and pickup another guy in Canberra. Staying in Melbourne and riding out every day. I think the plan is to ride from ACT and head south thru all the western outback towns and finish somewhere in western VIC. Dont know for sure, will keep you updated. Mate from ACT was on these roads last year (whilst I was hugging the coast) and assures me its the way to go for great riding.

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by r0bb0mc » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:29 am

Hi Len and Morgs,

I haven't ordered the cans yet, but I really like the black Stainless steel SC Project cans. Works out to around $1100 shipped..

Len, who did you order your motohooligan airbox through?

Riding the mountains should be great in october, but keep away from any of the dirt roads. They will be very sloshy and slippery from melting snow. Try to keep away from the Hume Highway, it's one of the most boring pieces of bitumen. Makes me cry everytime I ride along it, knowing that it's quickly wearing away the centre section of my PR3. I've done 17,000 k on the SMT and my rear PR3 has done almost 10,000. I'm finding it hard to choose anything else other than another PR3 to replace it.

I'm heading over to Sepang to cheer on the World Champ in October, the week before Phillip Island. Hopefully his ankle will be ok for him to race. If you're in Canberra for a little while, maybe we can catch up for some tyre kicking. :)

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by LenFerguson » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:35 am

Hi Rob,

I got the air box from motohooligan, just purchased it online at www.motohooliganperformance.com

If you buy and install the air box make sure you load an appropriate map for the bike as with the air box fitted the bike will run lean on the standard map. You can use TuneECU to do this; heaps of info on this site about what to do with this program and maps.

We wont go near any dirt on the SMT. Sounds like their would be a bit of water run off on the roads though due to the snow melt, so taking it easy may be par for the course. Just need to tell my throttle hand...

I will drop a line if we get near the capital. Always good to catch up with a local for a chat about good roads and these awesome bikes... Do the same if you head up our way... :D
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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by thegidds » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:08 am

Rob those black SCs look superb. Was that quoted price based on the reduced list price on their site of €690? Be interested to hear how you go with fitting if you go ahead with them.

Do you happen to know how they compare weight wise with stock cans?

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by r0bb0mc » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:49 am

thegidds wrote:Rob those black SCs look superb. Was that quoted price based on the reduced list price on their site of €690? Be interested to hear how you go with fitting if you go ahead with them.

Do you happen to know how they compare weight wise with stock cans?

Cheers
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Hi Joe, I used the reduced price plus their shipping charge to calculate the final price. I've also emailed them to find out the weight of both versions of the cans. I'll let you know what the final price is, if I order. I'm thinking it'll be around $1100 AUD, but who knows with dollar fluctuations etc.... I'll also reply back with the weights, if they get back to me. cheers, Rob

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by thegidds » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:41 am

Thanks Rob. I've sent the same enquiry!

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by r0bb0mc » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:59 pm

I've just placed an order for the SC-Project Black Stainless cans kit. Total price was $871.53 delivered. The 690 Euro price on the website included the shipping price to aus. I've checked part numbers etc, and everything looks correct. I'll keep my fingers crossed that the correct cans, connector pipe and brackets arrive here unscathed in a couple of weeks.

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by LenFerguson » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:37 pm

Hey Rob, post some photos when you get them. I reckon they look awesome.
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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by thegidds » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:45 pm

Great price I reckon. I'll wait to see how you go :smile:

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by thegidds » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:10 am

Hi Rob.

Got the following reply from SC in case you're interested:

"Hello, the weight is 3,7 kg, shipping cost in Australia 120 euro"

Not sure how that compares to stock / Leo Vince / Wings etc - I will search on here at some point.


Tempted to get an order in now but not sure how I would get them home without the missus seeing them! :lol:

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by ianf9494 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:52 am

Hi Guys,

I got a set of Leo Vince's (8414) for $800 landed in Perth for the US. Once fitted did the idle for 15 minutes and the STM now runs like a dream. Pulls smooth from idle. No remapping or fiddling with anything else. Maybe I have got a freak bike!

Getting them home wont be the problem. Starting the bike will be the problem you won't be able to hide the noise improvement!

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by r0bb0mc » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:46 am

Ian, have you posted a pic of your bike with the new pipes yet? Hopefully my experience will replicate yours, but I plan on the worse just in case. cheers, Rob

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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by ianf9494 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:11 am

Hi Rob, I must take some photos. Will do tomorrow if it is fine. I have also put a 16T front sprocket on. This made a substancial difference but I had done this before I fitted the exhausts. Maybe I was used to the KTM twins having owned a 950SM and a 990SD before getting the SMT. I think I will be holding on to this one for a while now. Hope it has not been too cold in Canberra. We lived there for 2 years after moving from Batemans Bay in 2006. Sure miss the hills and corners. Cheers Ian
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Re: Newbie in Australia

Post by tmjp09 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:14 am

ogden wrote:
r0bb0mc wrote:I'm planning on replacing chain\sprockets at 20K, and fitting a 16T front. I don't know about you guys, but 6th gear is a waste with stock gearing. It feels like I'm laboring the engine everytime I use 6th gear. Maybe if cruising on or above 160Klm, but at 130 - 140klm it's not good..
Same here. On anything but high speed motorway cruising (95mph+)...
Ogden - how fortunate you are! If we were caught by the boys in blue at 95 mph we would lose our licenses.
Australia has become a real nanny-state with the 'speed-kills' mantra and 'safety-cameras' ( that's what they are called officially) proliferating. Meanwhile red-light running in urban areas is getting more endemic and solid white lane markings are now seemingly ignored by many, especially on filter lanes.
End of soap-box rant.
At least here in Oz we can still get out onto 1000s of kms of back-roads and have some fun. When riding to the Moto GP in Victoria on any main roads, it's best to drone along at the 100kph limit, as anything over 3kph over will get you fined and losing license points - I kid you not!
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